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And only 1 of those 4 losses has come in the last 2 months. This team is playing focused and determined. They're on a mission to get Coach K his 5th title and they're not going to give up. If we don't win it all it won't be because they gave up and didn't give it 100% that's for sure.
 
Originally posted by dukehokie:

The question, how is Utah going to deal with Duke.

Jahlil Okafor, unstoppable big one on oneJustise Winslow, LeBron lite. Does everything, more athletic than youTwo PG's who do not turn the ball over and can score at will from the outsideHigh caliber offensive reboundingTrue identity on the bench from the role players
We hear so much about how Duke can't handle this and that from certain teams, but let's not forget, this is a team that lost only 4 games, had the best road wins I've seen from a Duke team in ages, and has a real identity each game that doesn't necessarily incorporate "shoot and hope you don't miss".

Duke beats the Utes and will be in similar fashion to the first two games.
Good post
 
I live just outside SLC and have seen the Utes play about 20 times this year. They are deep, good shooting, and strong on defense. Their coach K has done a great job turning the program around. He is fiery and has his teams attention at all times! Wright is their engine, but may be a little to unselfish. He could be an issue, driving the ball, but is the only slasher, with the other guards and wings being spot up guys. Brandon Taylor is a streaky shooter, and gets loose with the ball and can be a huge liability on defense, only being like 5'8" tall. Loveridge is a solid player that has been a bit hampered by injuries. Reyes is their 4 and he is a lunch pale guy, he had good energy, but isn't a huge threat on the inside. Poetle is developing, but is still raw and has a tough time at the free throw line. He may have a tough time with oak. I think our talent is going to be a little to much, but with their defense, it should be a very competitive game. I'm excited, I just hope they don't go nuts from 3. I guess we will see!

This post was edited on 3/23 11:12 PM by Jnood
 
If I didn't know better one would think that Utah is the #1 seed and had been ranked in the top 5 all year long and that Duke was just lucky to make the tourney after reading some of these post. OFC
 
Originally posted by Jnood:
I live just outside SLC and have seen the Utes play about 20 times this year. They are deep, good shooting, and strong on defense. Their coach K has done a great job turning the program around. He is fiery and has his teams attention at all times! Wright is their engine, but may be a little to unselfish. He could be an issue, driving the ball, but is the only slasher, with the other guards and wings being spot up guys. Brandon Taylor is a streaky shooter, and gets loose with the ball and can be a huge liability on defense, only being like 5'8" tall. Loveridge is a solid player that has been a bit hampered by injuries. Reyes is their 4 and he is a lunch pale guy, he had good energy, but isn't a huge threat on the inside. Poetle is developing, but is still raw and has a tough time at the free throw line. He may have a tough time with oak. I think our talent is going to be a little to much, but with their defense, it should be a very competitive game. I'm excited, I just hope they don't go nuts from 3. I guess we will see!

This post was edited on 3/23 11:12 PM by Jnood
Where in Utah do you live? My son DukeSky85 lives in Orem. Odd having 2 Duke fans living in Utah on the DI board.OFC
 
Originally posted by spike05rk:

If I didn't know better one would think that Utah is the #1 seed and had been ranked in the top 5 all year long and that Duke was just lucky to make the tourney after reading some of these post. OFC
Hey Mike, they're just excited. Just like a kid taking his first poop and flushing it. They are so proud.
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People are hesitant - it's to be expected with 2 of the last 3 years, along with the fact that this Duke team (iirc) hasn't played full-intensity for 40 minutes this year. Utah is a very good squad, and IMO, match up well with Duke. No doubt that Duke has more talent; the boys will need to keep the foot on the gas this Friday. If they have a lapse like they did against SDSU (early 2nd half) then Utah will pounce all over it.

I actually had Duke losing to Utah in this round in one of my initial brackets but I personally feel Duke wins this one by 4-7 points.
 
Originally posted by dukehokie:


The question, how is Utah going to deal with Duke.


Jahlil Okafor, unstoppable big one on one
Justise Winslow, LeBron lite. Does everything, more athletic than you
Two PG's who do not turn the ball over and can score at will from the outside
High caliber offensive rebounding
True identity on the bench from the role players
We hear so much about how Duke can't handle this and that from certain teams, but let's not forget, this is a team that lost only 4 games, had the best road wins I've seen from a Duke team in ages, and has a real identity each game that doesn't necessarily incorporate "shoot and hope you don't miss".

Duke beats the Utes and will be in similar fashion to the first two games.
I would only supplement this by saying they are pretty good at getting to and finishing around the rim as well. But this is the thinking I would like to see more of. We know Wright is an all-American, we know they can shoot, but we can do some things pretty well also.
 
Sweet 16 games always worry me.. I think it's mainly because the 05 and 06 teams were bounced there back to back and I felt like both would go farther
 
Originally posted by Crank_it_loud:
People are hesitant - it's to be expected with 2 of the last 3 years...
True, but only about 20% of teams have returned and play significant minutes for this team. Understandable that some are gunshy, but the nice thing about a new team is that they have a short memory. I guarantee Justise, Jah and Tyus don't really have much of a feeling about what Austin or Jabari didn't do.

Originally posted by Crank_it_loud:
...along with the fact that this Duke team (iirc) hasn't played full-intensity for 40 minutes this year. Utah is a very good squad...
I also don't necessarily agree with this statement. It's easy to say they haven't played a full game intensity-wise, but first it's a little unfair of a statement, because this team has played their asses off all season, to get some of the wins they notched and lapses in play don't always mean thy aren't giving what they have in that moment. This team has played as hard as any that I've seen in the tournament. I bet we can find quite a few instances of this Utah team not giving it all up and losing leads, etc.

Utah is a very good team who was top 10 at one point. That is not up for debate, but I think Duke's trend right now is up and their trend line is a little flatter.
 
Originally posted by pisgah101:
Sweet 16 games always worry me.. I think it's mainly because the 05 and 06 teams were bounced there back to back and I felt like both would go farther
Not to mention the 02 team that had Williams, Boozer, Duhon, Dunleavy, and Jones. Or the 2011 team with Irving, Singler, Smith, Curry , and Plumlee x2. Also lost in the Sweet 16 in 00, 03 and 09. This century, it has certainly been the toughest round for Duke for whatever reason. Of the 13 tournament losses Duke has since 2000, 7 of them came in this round. I would love to hear theories on why that is, it is a strange thing.

And I am sincerely not being paranoid or "sky is falling guy" (though skysdad is an OFC and always in danger of falling!). This Duke group is special and I feel very good about their chances Friday. I'm just genuinely curious why that round tends to be a hangup for Duke.

This post was edited on 3/25 8:36 AM by HuffyJB
 
Exactly huffy! I guess I just mentioned those because they came around as I was 14 and 15 and I was really really into it by then. More so then ever before even though I've always been a fan. But I had HIGH hopes those years. But looking at this team and having seen a lot of seasons since this team give me the 2010 vibe of we are just destined for some reason to win more then any of the others. Hope I'm right
 
Name games Duke flat-out played 100% intensity the entire game. Nd at home? Wisconsin maybe? It's not a knock to this team at all - as a former collegiate athlete I can personally say how difficult it is to bring 100% every game, let alone a whole game from start-to-finish. My point is that if they don't play 100% the entire game against Utah, this game will be closer than some are predicting across some Duke boards (an easier win).

As for being gun-shy; many people forget the rosters of each team and just hold on to "Duke" and K not being able to get past the 2nd round "lately". I don't agree wit it but it's common, with both fans and haters.
 
I doubt there's a team in the country that has played 40 minutes full of intensity all season. All players have mental lapses. What you want to do is try your best to avoid them. Unfortunately intensity doesn't equal winning. It helps, but it doesn't ensure it.

Since late January this team has been really good. A few teams have stuck around that had no business sticking around....but yet we've won 14 of 15 games. I'll take it. But it sure would be nice if we won 18 of 19 to end the year.
 
If Duke keeps playing at the level they have been playing at over the last month, it will take a ridiculously hot shooting night for them to be beat. IMO it is that simple.
 
I agree, it's near impossible for any team to go 40 minutes max intensity. Duke is playing so much better (with the exception of the 1st 25 minutes of the ND game in the ACC tourney) but even still, I do not see Duke blowing Utah out in this one. I think it'll be closer than some are predicting. Utah has talent and they will be amped as well.

Looking forward to a battle on Friday night.....
 
I agree. I think it's a game that's within a couple possessions throughout. In the end I think we win by about 6-8 points.
 
Originally posted by Crank_it_loud:
Name games Duke flat-out played 100% intensity the entire game. Nd at home? Wisconsin maybe? It's not a knock to this team at all - as a former collegiate athlete I can personally say how difficult it is to bring 100% every game, let alone a whole game from start-to-finish. My point is that if they don't play 100% the entire game against Utah, this game will be closer than some are predicting across some Duke boards (an easier win).

As for being gun-shy; many people forget the rosters of each team and just hold on to "Duke" and K not being able to get past the 2nd round "lately". I don't agree wit it but it's common, with both fans and haters.
Maybe you misunderstood me. I'm not implying Duke played balls to wall every minute of every game. I am saying that I think they are as focused for games as most teams, if not more. You don't win as many games as Duke has without doing so. And if this Duke team has lapses, so does Utah. And so does Gonzaga. And so does Kentucky and Arizona and West Virginia and so on and so on.

Lapse aside, that is not what I'm concerned with pre-game. Professionally, "make sure you don't lapse", shouldn't have to even be said. If Duke can't stay up for a game in the NCAA tournament, then they deserve to lose. That's not my point.

Ultimately in terms of matchups, my point is that I personally think Duke matches up well against Utah.
 
Duke has been locked in on D. Especially Justice. I think that is the key quite simply. Our offense has been consistent, and we have not been counting on the three ball. I like our chances of getting out of Houston.
 
Gotcha. I actually think Utah matches up well with Duke. They have two 7-footers that will allow them to not have to double, forcing Duke to make contested 2's and 3's. Should be interesting.
 
Originally posted by skysdad:
Originally posted by Jnood:
I live just outside SLC and have seen the Utes play about 20 times this year. They are deep, good shooting, and strong on defense. Their coach K has done a great job turning the program around. He is fiery and has his teams attention at all times! Wright is their engine, but may be a little to unselfish. He could be an issue, driving the ball, but is the only slasher, with the other guards and wings being spot up guys. Brandon Taylor is a streaky shooter, and gets loose with the ball and can be a huge liability on defense, only being like 5'8" tall. Loveridge is a solid player that has been a bit hampered by injuries. Reyes is their 4 and he is a lunch pale guy, he had good energy, but isn't a huge threat on the inside. Poetle is developing, but is still raw and has a tough time at the free throw line. He may have a tough time with oak. I think our talent is going to be a little to much, but with their defense, it should be a very competitive game. I'm excited, I just hope they don't go nuts from 3. I guess we will see!

This post was edited on 3/23 11:12 PM by Jnood
Where in Utah do you live? My son DukeSky85 lives in Orem. Odd having 2 Duke fans living in Utah on the DI board.OFC
I live 30 minutes east of Orem, down Provo canyon, in a small town named Heber City. I'm originally from alaska, but met my wife here, so this is where I ended up. For the most part it's great, a little different then most places I have lived, but the people are nice and the economy was never really effected when thing got tough.
 
Am I the only person less worried about the team we play and more concerned about the arena? They say depth perception is really hard to get used to in the big stadiums for shooters. On top of that is the raised floor. I just hope this doesn't throw our 3pt shots off!
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If it throws ours off it should throw there's off too. Which from what it seems may be a bigger issue for them!
 
Originally posted by vcugreg:
Am I the only person less worried about the team we play and more concerned about the arena? They say depth perception is really hard to get used to in the big stadiums for shooters. On top of that is the raised floor. I just hope this doesn't throw our 3pt shots off!
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I recall some pretty big three balls falling on that floor!!!!!

I bet I've replayed the Baylor game near 50 times..... The lance Thomas and 1 and the lance Thomas kick out to Nolan for a three ball...... With the high five to K!!!! Major chills everytime!!!!!

A crazy sweet sequence of plays and game! I can hear Clark Kellog right now, "and ANOTHER offensive rebound!"
 
I said before the tournament that based on Ken Pomeroys statistics, Duke had the potential toughest game in the sweet sixteen for any 1 seed.

Ken had Utah ranked 8th and Duke 7th.

I feel Duke usually has the advantage playing a team who hasn't seen them over a few years. Switching screens and disrupting offensive sets by being in the face of every ball handler can be difficult for teams to adjust to. Duke playing more zone changes that some.

If Utah hits shots and doesn't need to double Jah...Duke can lose. I would still bet on Duke however.
 
I honestly don't think enough people think Utah can beat Duke. They absolutely can...IMO we beat them 6 out of 10 games.
 
Originally posted by Tim1515:
I honestly don't think enough people think Utah can beat Duke. They absolutely can...IMO we beat them 6 out of 10 games.
I agree. I actually argued this point with a Carolina friend of mine yesterday. He believes that Carolina has a better shot of upsetting Wisconsin, than say, Utah upsetting us. I disagree wholeheartedly with that sentiment. I think we are going to have our hands full and more with this Utah team.
 
I don't think it matters if not enough people think we can do it. We just need to do it.


Look, it's the sweet 16. It's tough. At this point in the NCAA it's really hard and only gets even harder. Utah will only help make this incredibly hard.
 
I just don't think it's possible for Utah to beat us if we play like we have been for the majority of the season. If we happen to play like we did against Notre Dame and be cold from three that's how they'll beat us but that's it. If we're both on our game Duke wins
 
I'm very interested to see what Grayson can do in this game. I was sorry he got into that foul trouble in the last game because he really provided a spark during the brief time he was in. I think he also creates a matchup problem for Utah. Justise is the obvious matchup issue for the Utes, but Grayson brings fairly similar athleticism and a better threat from outside. I think if Justise really attacks during the games, Grayson would be a great sub choice because of what he provides from deep.

I love our matchups in this game. I think Matt and Quinn will really work hard at staying on those shooters, Jah will play big, and Justise will go to work with that athleticism that is tough to match. Tyus will stay poised as usual and hopefully we can get a spark from our bench.
 
Doug Gotlieb just said "Coach K up next" so I kept it on here and they come back and have Utahs coach on there..... What a turd man
 
Maybe I'm weird and naive, but all of the doubt makes me feel like Duke is in store for a good game.
 
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