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Dattier, that is a stupid thing to say. Were we supposed to vote for the other side that represents everything we are against?

That, and is there something else in the link that I am going to miss, or are we supposed to be shook to our core over what is said in the headline?
 
Dattier, that is a stupid thing to say. Were we supposed to vote for the other side that represents everything we are against?

That, and is there something else in the link that I am going to miss, or are we supposed to be shook to our core over what is said in the headline?
You're in charge of your reaction. I'm reminding you of who you wanted.

The article contains a reminder that the assassinated Speaker of the Minnesota House is a Democrat, that the assaulted Minnesota State Senator is. Democrat, and that a presumed list of targets in the suspect's car contained a bunch of other Democratic politicians. It also rounds out the list of political violence in @smashmouth5 's bc cherry-picked list with the mention that Pennsylvania Gov Josh Shapiro's home was set on fire during Passover. I'm guessing the assassination of the 2 Israeli embassy staffers was "Leftist," but the attack against a Jewish Democratic governor was more broadly "antisemitic."
 
You don't like peaceful protesters.
...even though I don't like it, they have the right to protest, as long as it is PEACEFUL.
"'Innocent bystander' shot dead by 'peacekeepers' during 'No Kings' protest in Salt Lake City"
All signs were that this guy you don't like because he was exercising a constitutional right you don't like was peaceful. The bullet that killed him allegedly came from a Kyle Rittenhouse type.
This is where your rhetoric leads, @Mac9192 . At least you can say you were just parroting our President's rhetoric, rather than thinking independently.
 
"'Innocent bystander' shot dead by 'peacekeepers' during 'No Kings' protest in Salt Lake City"
All signs were that this guy you don't like because he was exercising a constitutional right you don't like was peaceful. The bullet that killed him allegedly came from a Kyle Rittenhouse type.
This is where your rhetoric leads, @Mac9192 . At least you can say you were just parroting our President's rhetoric, rather than thinking independently.
What crawled up your ass? I don't parrot our President. I think for myself. An innocent bystander being shot at a protest is a tragedy. Are you wanting me to be giddy? Cause if you are, you're sadly mistaken, as well as sadly being a moron.

There's also a saying that I think fits you: Hurt people hurt people.
 
"peacekeeper"
Well, going by that article and what the person who is being charged had with him, those Kyle Rittenhouse types may have prevented a worse event. It does suck that an innocent bystander lost his life.

You want to talk about rhetoric, bullshit rhetoric is what drove all of those mentally ill toddlers to the streets across the country to scream at the sky to begin with. Not that anyone deserved to die because they're brainwashed.
 
What crawled up your ass? I don't parrot our President. I think for myself. An innocent bystander being shot at a protest is a tragedy. Are you wanting me to be giddy? Cause if you are, you're sadly mistaken, as well as sadly being a moron.

There's also a saying that I think fits you: Hurt people hurt people.
I learned that saying about 11 years ago. It's a good one. Unfortunately, you're using it as a punchline, not as a means of building empathy, which is the whole point.

You hate even peaceful protesters. You and @GhostOf301 have both shown greater annoyance at protesters than respect for rights. That's the kind of attitude our President foments, and it leads to a lack of empathy and callousness about the lives of people on the basis that they annoy you.
 
You want to talk about rhetoric, bullshit rhetoric is what drove all of those mentally ill toddlers to the streets across the country to scream at the sky to begin with. Not that anyone deserved to die because they're brainwashed.
Let's go back further, to rhetoric about rapists and murderers and gang members invading our southern border. That's what has led to conservative apologists ignoring constitutional abuses and assuming the worst of every immigrant.
 
Where's the info on paid protesters?
He mentions a couple nonprofits that legally contract with the state and are paid via tax money. Red states do the same with other nonprofits.
You post a link. add 4 words, and think you proved anything? O'Reilly is no better than Hannity. He's citing Just the News, an outlet so biased it is considered "Questionable," which is a nice way of saying they have fallen off the right-hand side of the teeter-totter.

Spending a small amount of time to point out what dogcrap sources you use is easy and somewhat enjoyable for me. If you're trying to get under my skin, this ain't it. Try upping your game, using well-vetted sources, and actually challenging me with something thoughtful, instead of hyperbolic, conspiratorial bunk that appeals to your emotions.
 
I learned that saying about 11 years ago. It's a good one. Unfortunately, you're using it as a punchline, not as a means of building empathy, which is the whole point.

You hate even peaceful protesters. You and @GhostOf301 have both shown greater annoyance at protesters than respect for rights. That's the kind of attitude our President foments, and it leads to a lack of empathy and callousness about the lives of people on the basis that they annoy you.
You're either trying to pick a fight, or you're an extremely ignorant man. I don't like the protesters. That's no shocker. Do I wish any harm on them? Not the peaceful ones. It is a different story on the idiots breaking the law, and trying to hurt people. Again, I'm not sure what your angle is here.

Protest your ass in a civil manner. But you'll be doing it with me miles away. I also agree with Governor DeSantis about the situation. If someone by awful luck, were to find themselves surrounded by them somehow, and in their vehicle? Run their asses over if it means protecting yourself.

Call that lack of empathy, compassion... I really don't give a shit. Their rights end where someone else's begins.
 
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Let's go back further, to rhetoric about rapists and murderers and gang members invading our southern border. That's what has led to conservative apologists ignoring constitutional abuses and assuming the worst of every immigrant.
This is one of those instances of leftists intentionally ignoring context and exaggerating what was actually being said. You guys like to make it as if Trump was calling everyone coming into the country rapists and murderers. What he said was 100% accurate and verified by the reports last summer regarding criminals being sent to our country by the governments of their country.

Not only were thousands of people criminals prior to coming here. Including rapists, murderers and gang members. But many committed rape, murders and were gang members after they got here. Don't ever talk about empathy when you cherry pick who to have empathy for. By you downplaying the effects of unchecked, illegal immigration, you are showing no empathy for the hundreds if not thousands of families effected by these criminals who were allowed into our country by the potato.
 
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I learned that saying about 11 years ago. It's a good one. Unfortunately, you're using it as a punchline, not as a means of building empathy, which is the whole point.

You hate even peaceful protesters. You and @GhostOf301 have both shown greater annoyance at protesters than respect for rights. That's the kind of attitude our President foments, and it leads to a lack of empathy and callousness about the lives of people on the basis that they annoy you.
More lies. I can show annoyance for people and respect for their rights at the same time. Nothing I have ever said or done has prevented anyone from expressing their rights. I find it annoying hearing terrible singers sing karaoke, that in no way means that I don't respect their right to be a terrible singer.
 
This is one of those instances of leftists intentionally ignoring context and exaggerating what was actually being said. You guys like to make it as if Trump was calling everyone coming into the country rapists and murderers. What he said was 100% accurate and verified by the reports last summer regarding criminals being sent to our country by the governments of their country.

Not only were thousands of people criminals prior to coming here. Including rapists, murderers and gang members. But many committed rape, murders and were gang members after they got here. Don't ever talk about empathy when you cherry pick who to have empathy for. By you downplaying the effects of unchecked, illegal immigration, you are showing no empathy for the hundreds if not thousands of families effected by these criminals who were allowed into our country by the potato.
Why the sudden decision to back off immigration arrests at farms, hotels, and restaurants? Are those industries uniquely immune from infiltration from rapists and murderers? Would our President prioritizes anything above the safety of American citizens?
 
Let's go back further, to rhetoric about rapists and murderers and gang members invading our southern border. That's what has led to conservative apologists ignoring constitutional abuses and assuming the worst of every immigrant.
Are you saying no 'bad apples' have entered our country, and that they haven't committed any awful crimes like rape and murder? What about the victims of these thugs? Because of the political party you support, you refuse to show any empathy and compassion towards them. You're just a fraud.

Grow a set. You're just a weak and pathetic man.
 
More lies. I can show annoyance for people and respect for their rights at the same time. Nothing I have ever said or done has prevented anyone from expressing their rights. I find it annoying hearing terrible singers sing karaoke, that in no way means that I don't respect their right to be a terrible singer.
Uh-oh, @Mac9192 ! Deflection alert! He's trying to change the subject to karaoke now!

"When protesters disrupt travel and free movement, libs always go to their talking point. Protests are meant to be disruptive and make people feel uncomfortable.
I am not arguing against your constitutional rights to gather and protest. And I am not saying that nothing good has ever come from a protest. But the way they are conducted today is dumb as hell. Blocking traffic, shutting down blocks, affecting businesses, taunting cops and non participants in their hissy fit. Then the media will shape the narrative after agitators turn it violent by saying their favorite line. Mostly peaceful. And then of course, blame LEO for escalating and excuse the criminals (yes, criminals) who burn, loot and assault."
Bold is all the attention you gave to the rights. Everything else is complaining about protesting. You never did address the question I had about how protests were conducted differently in the past.
 
I couldn't tell you. Nice way to deflect the conversation. Again.
Not a deflection. It's a perfect example exposing our President's hyperbole about undocumented immigrants designed to stoke fear. It has worked on you. All it took was a nudge from business leaders for him to quietly back off. Because they need those employees and the threat from their presence is greatly exaggerated for the purpose of manipulation.
 
Uh-oh, @Mac9192 ! Deflection alert! He's trying to change the subject to karaoke now!

"When protesters disrupt travel and free movement, libs always go to their talking point. Protests are meant to be disruptive and make people feel uncomfortable.
I am not arguing against your constitutional rights to gather and protest. And I am not saying that nothing good has ever come from a protest. But the way they are conducted today is dumb as hell. Blocking traffic, shutting down blocks, affecting businesses, taunting cops and non participants in their hissy fit. Then the media will shape the narrative after agitators turn it violent by saying their favorite line. Mostly peaceful. And then of course, blame LEO for escalating and excuse the criminals (yes, criminals) who burn, loot and assault."
Bold is all the attention you gave to the rights. Everything else is complaining about protesting. You never did address the question I had about how protests were conducted differently in the past.
You think you're making a point here?
 
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It's not a deflection. It's a perfect example exposing our president's hyperbole about undocumented immigrants designed to stoke fear. It has worked on you. All it took was a nudge from business leaders for him to quietly back off. Because they need those employees, and the threat from their presence is greatly exaggerated for the purpose of manipulation.
It is absolutely a deflection. The fact that we're even talking about immigration is solely due to you deflecting from the earlier conversation.

Trump has not stoked fear with me. I do not fear legal immigration. I don't fear illegal immigration. I support legal immigration. I do not support illegal immigration. I acknowledge the very real threats of unchecked immigration, particularly illegal immigration. This stuff was addressed under Obama and Clinton. Trump uses tone and language that hurts feelings. It's the only difference. Just because it hurts your feelings doesn't mean it isn't true. You mocked the idea that many people who came here illegally are rapists, murderers and gang members. Even though that is an undeniable fact. Acknowledging that and wanting to prevent those evil things from happening does not equal stoking fear. That is just dumb.
 
So you won't answer the question. All good. We know why too. Like I said, you are just a weak and pathetic man.
I did answer. I told you your question was a straw man. Go look that up. If you knew what a straw man is, you would understand teh implication of my answer.
 
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It is absolutely a deflection. The fact that we're even talking about immigration is solely due to you deflecting from the earlier conversation.

Trump has not stoked fear with me. I do not fear legal immigration. I don't fear illegal immigration. I support legal immigration. I do not support illegal immigration. I acknowledge the very real threats of unchecked immigration, particularly illegal immigration. This stuff was addressed under Obama and Clinton. Trump uses tone and language that hurts feelings. It's the only difference. Just because it hurts your feelings doesn't mean it isn't true. You mocked the idea that many people who came here illegally are rapists, murderers and gang members. Even though that is an undeniable fact. Acknowledging that and wanting to prevent those evil things from happening does not equal stoking fear. That is just dumb.
Not a deflection.
Which earlier conversation? Minnesota? No Kings protests? They're both pretty current.
Every time you bite on the hand-picked, awful, exceptional example of a Laken RIley*, you're falling for the fear-mongering of our President.

(*BTW, several pages back where I clued you in on the need to go back and edit, it was because I had snuck Laken Riley's name into a list of Black police brutality victims.)
 
I did answer. I told you your question was a straw man. Go look that up. If you knew what a straw man is, you would understand teh implication of my answer.
You are the 3 D man. Deflect, Divert, and Dodge. It's all you got.

Do you have compassion for the victims of crimes committed by illegals?
 
Not a deflection.
Which earlier conversation? Minnesota? No Kings protests? They're both pretty current.
Every time you bite on the hand-picked, awful, exceptional example of a Laken RIley*, you're falling for the fear-mongering of our President.

(*BTW, several pages back where I clued you in on the need to go back and edit, it was because I had snuck Laken Riley's name into a list of Black police brutality victims.)
It's not biting on a hand-picked, awful, exceptional example. How many people have to be raped, trafficked, murdered, and victimized by illegal aliens before they are considered more than just an exceptional example? Give me a number, Datt. Because you seem to be okay with doing absolutely nothing to prevent these evil acts from happening. It's not me falling for fear mongering. It's you denying undeniable facts just because orange Hitler brings them up.

(BTW) I saw that, briefly questioned whether you botched a name or just threw her name in there. Wasn't worth my time, nor was it relevant to my response. But if you want to feel like you got me real good, go for it.
 
You are the 3 D man. Deflect, Divert, and Dodge. It's all you got.

Do you have compassion for the victims of crimes committed by illegals?
That's cute that you know 3 words starting with D and you know that 3-D is a thing.

Yes, I have compassion for the very few real victims of crimes committed by undocumented immigrants.
 
It's not biting on a hand-picked, awful, exceptional example. How many people have to be raped, trafficked, murdered, and victimized by illegal aliens before they are considered more than just an exceptional example? Give me a number, Datt. Because you seem to be okay with doing absolutely nothing to prevent these evil acts from happening. It's not me falling for fear mongering. It's you denying undeniable facts just because orange Hitler brings them up.

(BTW) I saw that, briefly questioned whether you botched a name or just threw her name in there. Wasn't worth my time, nor was it relevant to my response. But if you want to feel like you got me real good, go for it.
Laken Riley is a single, hand-picked, awful, exceptional example. BTW, I slipped in a second name on that list who was a victim of a violent crime by an undocumented immigrant, but you wouldn't know who she was because she wasn't as photogenic as Laken Riley, and thus didn't fit the narrative for conservative media to cover. Again, you're dancing to whatever tune they play.

It's similar to your claims about alleged racism. I think your side greatly exaggerates crimes committed by undocumented immigrants because it stokes your anger and gives you a scapegoat. Give me a single real example and I'll express empathy. Claim it's an epidemic and I ask for receipts you can't procure.

How many? First, nail down the number of undocumented immigrants there are. Here's where a decade of exaggerating those numbers comes back to haunt y'all because it deflates the % of crimes. Next, compare the rate of violent and property crimes by undocumented immigrants to that of citizens. When undocumented immigrants are committing as much, that's the number.
 
Yes, I have compassion for the very few real victims of crimes committed by undocumented immigrants.
No you don't. You downplay their deaths.

You say very few real victims. That is a disgraceful cop out. I did a little search through the very slanted Google machine. 23 unarmed black people were killed by police last year. That doesn't mean unjustly killed, but unarmed. According to you that represents an epidemic. Last year 29 people were victims of homicide involving illegal immigrants. But according to you, that's just a very few. And that's just homicide. There are many other crimes that are committed that aren't homicide. Like rape. Burglary and squatting. But, very few of course, so we shouldn't waste our time trying to prevent it.
 
Laken Riley is a single, hand-picked, awful, exceptional example. BTW, I slipped in a second name on that list who was a victim of a violent crime by an undocumented immigrant, but you wouldn't know who she was because she wasn't as photogenic as Laken Riley, and thus didn't fit the narrative for conservative media to cover. Again, you're dancing to whatever tune they play.

It's similar to your claims about alleged racism. I think your side greatly exaggerates crimes committed by undocumented immigrants because it stokes your anger and gives you a scapegoat. Give me a single real example and I'll express empathy. Claim it's an epidemic and I ask for receipts you can't procure.

How many? First, nail down the number of undocumented immigrants there are. Here's where a decade of exaggerating those numbers comes back to haunt y'all because it deflates the % of crimes. Next, compare the rate of violent and property crimes by undocumented immigrants to that of citizens. When undocumented immigrants are committing as much, that's the number.
More left wing cop outs. We all know we have a crime problem involving natural born citizens. All the more reason to do everything we can to prevent those crimes from being enhanced by illegal immigration. I haven't exaggerated shit. I point out the undeniable fact that there are many illegal immigrants who have committed heinous acts prior to coming here and after being here. And I support border security and enforcement of our laws.
 
It's similar to your claims about alleged racism. I think your side greatly exaggerates crimes committed by undocumented immigrants because it stokes your anger and gives you a scapegoat. Give me a single real example and I'll express empathy. Claim it's an epidemic and I ask for receipts you can't procure.

How many? First, nail down the number of undocumented immigrants there are. Here's where a decade of exaggerating those numbers comes back to haunt y'all because it deflates the % of crimes. Next, compare the rate of violent and property crimes by undocumented immigrants to that of citizens. When undocumented immigrants are committing as much, that's the number.
No you don't. You downplay their deaths.

You say very few real victims. That is a disgraceful cop out. I did a little search through the very slanted Google machine. 23 unarmed black people were killed by police last year. That doesn't mean unjustly killed, but unarmed. According to you that represents an epidemic. Last year 29 people were victims of homicide involving illegal immigrants. But according to you, that's just a very few. And that's just homicide. There are many other crimes that are committed that aren't homicide. Like rape. Burglary and squatting. But, very few of course, so we shouldn't waste our time trying to prevent it.
@Dattier, you're either the dipshit as we think you are, or you're a master troll. I hope it's trolling. If not, God bless your students.
 
No you don't. You downplay their deaths.

You say very few real victims. That is a disgraceful cop out. I did a little search through the very slanted Google machine. 23 unarmed black people were killed by police last year. That doesn't mean unjustly killed, but unarmed. According to you that represents an epidemic. Last year 29 people were victims of homicide involving illegal immigrants. But according to you, that's just a very few. And that's just homicide. There are many other crimes that are committed that aren't homicide. Like rape. Burglary and squatting. But, very few of course, so we shouldn't waste our time trying to prevent it.
You use Google? (Ahem, @Dahntay#1 )

So 23 minus minus minus vs 29 plus plus plus? Yeah, sounds very scientific. 🙄
 
More left wing cop outs. We all know we have a crime problem involving natural born citizens. All the more reason to do everything we can to prevent those crimes from being enhanced by illegal immigration. I haven't exaggerated shit. I point out the undeniable fact that there are many illegal immigrants who have committed heinous acts prior to coming here and after being here. And I support border security and enforcement of our laws.
Uh, no, you claimed it. You didn’t provide any proof or define any terms.
If you also support ICE, you don’t support laws, because they don’t.
 
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