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Walk one day in a LEO's shoes...until then....watch these scenarios....they have seconds to decide life or death...their own.
Walk a day in _________'s shoes is never a compelling argument to me. There are many, many jobs each of us is completely unequipped for. And each of us does a job many others are unequipped for. So what?

Police have tremendous amounts of authority. We hold them to a high standard as a result.
 
It's funny you libs say we have no empathy. Where is yours at the policeman? Out of boogie's own mouth, he says the cop just came up and immediately killed the kid.
That's like asking us to feel sorry for the lion with antelope stuck in its teeth, not the antelope. It's like you're prioritizing defense of the least vulnerable and most powerful.

Officer Loehmann shot Tamir Rice within 2 seconds of the car stopping.
 
Okay. Did you watch the video of him pointing the gun at random people, or just the video of him being shot by police? The way he was pointing the gun at people, in their face, was not like 9 year olds playing cops and robbers or cowboys and Indians. It wasn't playful at all. It was intimidating and threatening. That is learned behavior. The adults in his life failed him. He was acting gangster, not cowboy.
Already said the kid was 100% wrong for what he did at the park
 
It's crazy how this shooting can be captured on video, yet two totally different opinions are had. There's nothing we can say to @BOOGIEMAN1914. His mind is made up. It's funny you libs say we have no empathy. Where is yours at the policeman? Out of boogie's own mouth, he says the cop just came up and immediately killed the kid.
Uh, the video shows the car pull up and kid goes down immediately....I have already agreed to instant decision decisions....I have only said they had many options on their approach in that situation....and likewise nothing can be said to you...
 
But you question why I blame the adults in his life by comparing this to kids playing cowboys and Indians. Are you just fvcking with me, or what?
I don't question it, I just don't agree that you can paint parents by a poor decision of a child.....and I didn't say this situation was cowboy and Indians...when kids play that and cops and robbers they point...you made it an absolute saying you should never point and I said during this you point because its play....the kid should not have been doing that at the park to people....terrible that he was killed before the situation at the time could be assessed safely
 
But you question why I blame the adults in his life by comparing this to kids playing cowboys and Indians. Are you just fvcking with me, or what?
I question why you blame the adults in his life, as well. They weren't there. 12-year-olds aren't with their parents 24 hours per day. They have many more influences than just their parents.
 
But you question why I blame the adults in his life by comparing this to kids playing cowboys and Indians. Are you just fvcking with me, or what?
Are your parents 100% responsible for every bone headed decision you have made and are you for any decision that your child has or will make?
 
Jesus Christ. I blame the adults in his life because at 12 years old, he thought acting like a gangster with a gun was cool. They allowed him to be comfortable in that culture. This isn't your typical "bone headed decision". It was calculated and learned behavior. Y'all keep making excuses, though. If he has better influences, he'd still be alive. But you want to put it all on the cop.
 
Jesus Christ. I blame the adults in his life because at 12 years old, he thought acting like a gangster with a gun was cool. They allowed him to be comfortable in that culture. This isn't your typical "bone headed decision". It was calculated and learned behavior. Y'all keep making excuses, though. If he has better influences, he'd still be alive. But you want to put it all on the cop.
I acted out a lot of things at 12 that I didn't learn at home. I think that's pretty normal.
 
That's like asking us to feel sorry for the lion with antelope stuck in its teeth, not the antelope. It's like you're prioritizing defense of the least vulnerable and most powerful.

Officer Loehmann shot Tamir Rice within 2 seconds of the car stopping.
I never said it wasn't tragic. It's very tragic. There's a lot of blame here, but your go to is always to blame law enforcement. Your analogy? Just an awful attempt to make your point.

I don't always side with law enforcement. The same goes for my opinion on teachers. I think you're probably pretty bad, but that doesn't mean I think all teachers are bad.
 
I never said it wasn't tragic. It's very tragic. There's a lot of blame here, but your go to is always to blame law enforcement. Your analogy? Just an awful attempt to make your point.

I don't always side with law enforcement. The same goes for my opinion on teachers. I think you're probably pretty bad, but that doesn't mean I think all teachers are bad.
Officer Loehmann -- who had already been fired from a previous police department as unfit for duty -- killed Tamir Rice within 2 seconds of the car stopping.
 
I acted out a lot of things at 12 that I didn't learn at home. I think that's pretty normal.
I don't want to put the blame on a 12 year old kid. And I don't blame the parents for 12 year old kids doing 12 year old kid things. But this isn't 12 year old kid things. There was someone in his life that made him think having a gun was cool. The piece of the gun that identifies it as being a BB gun was removed in order for it to appear like a real gun.

Either way, I am over the Tamir Rice discussion.
 
I don't want to put the blame on a 12 year old kid. And I don't blame the parents for 12 year old kids doing 12 year old kid things. But this isn't 12 year old kid things. There was someone in his life that made him think having a gun was cool. The piece of the gun that identifies it as being a BB gun was removed in order for it to appear like a real gun.

Either way, I am over the Tamir Rice discussion.
Yeah, well, it happened in 2014.

12 year olds do non-12 year old things that they didn't learn at home.
 
The demand for racism continues to outstrip supply:

As per usual. Once you start digging deeper into most said “racism”, you realize it’s mostly lies, exaggeration, or has a reasonable explanation.

This website is great to prove my point.
 
As per usual. Once you start digging deeper into most said “racism”, you realize it’s mostly lies, exaggeration, or has a reasonable explanation.

This website is great to prove my point.
They need two things to keep the masses stirred up. The first is finding a conservative white man that either harms or kills a minority. They hit a home run if he happens to be a cop.

In both cases, it’s guilty until proven innocent. Facts don’t matter.

Edit: now that the wnba has a really good white player, racism just picked up more steam.
 
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They need two things to keep the masses stirred up. The first is finding a conservative white man that either harms or kills a minority. They hit a home run if he happens to be a cop.

In both cases, it’s guilty until proven innocent. Facts don’t matter.

Edit: now that the wnba has a really good white player, racism just picked up more steam.
Correct. They are pissed when it’s anything besides a white man killing a black man. Or a white man committing any crime actually. Whenever I hear of a crime and they don’t show pictures or give details of the suspect, I automatically know he ain’t white.
 
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As per usual. Once you start digging deeper into most said “racism”, you realize it’s mostly lies, exaggeration, or has a reasonable explanation.

This website is great to prove my point.
One of the most egregious examples of recent times was the BYU volleyball game, where a man was using the n word repeatedly, the allegations went. On video not a soul even looked in the man’s direction when this supposedly occurred. I’ve been to dozens of sporting events mostly cfb and cbb. I’ve never heard a single racial slur. If there were, there would be people pointing the perp out to security I would imagine. I’ve heard homophobic slurs directed at presumably heterosexual athletes as a way to insult their manhood but even that is seldom heard anymore. Even so, Dawn Staley canceled a basketball game against BYU for fear that her players might be subjected to slurs when there wasn’t a shred of evidence to support the allegations. The volleyball players were under such intense pressure to back up the claims of the one player who heard it that they couldn’t simply say “ I didn’t hear anything”; they babbled something about everyone has their own truth mumbo jumbo

Edit: Honestly I’d forgotten Duke was the opponent. AD King had her player’s back and I’m probably biased to give her the benefit of the doubt compared to another program. It is what it is.

 
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Correct. They are pissed when it’s anything besides a white man killing a black man. Or a white man committing any crime actually. Whenever I hear of a crime and they don’t show pictures or give details of the suspect, I automatically know he ain’t white.
Like the Kansas City Chiefs parade a few years ago?
 
As per usual. Once you start digging deeper into most said “racism”, you realize it’s mostly lies, exaggeration, or has a reasonable explanation.
"Most"? What's this mealy-mouthed "most" junk?! You said racism doesn't even exist. Don't back down now. Say it with your chest!
 
One of the most egregious examples of recent times was the BYU volleyball game, where a man was using the n word repeatedly, the allegations went. On video not a soul even looked in the man’s direction when this supposedly occurred. I’ve been to dozens of sporting events mostly cfb and cbb. I’ve never heard a single racial slur. If there were, there would be people pointing the perp out to security I would imagine. I’ve heard homophobic slurs directed at presumably heterosexual athletes as a way to insult their manhood but even that is seldom heard anymore. Even so, Dawn Staley canceled a basketball game against BYU for fear that her players might be subjected to slurs when there wasn’t a shred of evidence to support the allegations. The volleyball players were under such intense pressure to back up the claims of the one player who heard it that they couldn’t simply say “ I didn’t hear anything”; they babbled something about everyone has their own truth mumbo jumbo

Edit: Honestly I’d forgotten Duke was the opponent. AD King had her player’s back and I’m probably biased to give her the benefit of the doubt compared to another program. It is what it is.

Yup. This is how it works. Once you understand the psychology of it, it makes complete sense. Victimhood is this generation’s top currency. So much so that people are willing to tell blatant lies to get on the victimhood train.
 
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"Most"? What's this mealy-mouthed "most" junk?! You said racism doesn't even exist. Don't back down now. Say it with your chest!
Correct. Most “racism” falls into one of those categories. Other “racism” is justified as there’s absolutely nothing wrong with it. For instance, some people say that not wanting your kids to date certain races is “racism”. That’s absurd as there’s absolutely nothing wrong with it.
 
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One of the most egregious examples of recent times was the BYU volleyball game, where a man was using the n word repeatedly, the allegations went. On video not a soul even looked in the man’s direction when this supposedly occurred. I’ve been to dozens of sporting events mostly cfb and cbb. I’ve never heard a single racial slur. If there were, there would be people pointing the perp out to security I would imagine. I’ve heard homophobic slurs directed at presumably heterosexual athletes as a way to insult their manhood but even that is seldom heard anymore. Even so, Dawn Staley canceled a basketball game against BYU for fear that her players might be subjected to slurs when there wasn’t a shred of evidence to support the allegations. The volleyball players were under such intense pressure to back up the claims of the one player who heard it that they couldn’t simply say “ I didn’t hear anything”; they babbled something about everyone has their own truth mumbo jumbo

Edit: Honestly I’d forgotten Duke was the opponent. AD King had her player’s back and I’m probably biased to give her the benefit of the doubt compared to another program. It is what it is.

There was also the Rockies fan who was accused of screaming the N word at an opposing player. They tried to get him fired from his job and shamed him on his social media. The Rockies even initially banned him from ever attending another game. Turns out, the Rockies' mascot is named Dinger and the man was trying to get his attention so his grandson could get a photo with him. He wasn't even facing the batter when he was screaming Dinger, but they went with the old white man screaming the N word angle because they're desperate to keep racism rolling.
 
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Trump has taken a couple of pretty big L's this week. His gay lover (African American neo nazi) criticized his one big beautiful bill. And rightfully so. And the courts axed liberation day.
 
Trump has taken a couple of pretty big L's this week. His gay lover (African American neo nazi) criticized his one big beautiful bill. And rightfully so. And the courts axed liberation day.
And his handling of the Ukraine war has been a bumbling mess. In four months, zero progress and he’s only succeeded in alienating both key players.

 
There was also the Rockies fan who was accused of screaming the N word at an opposing player. They tried to get him fired from his job and shamed him on his social media. The Rockies even initially banned him from ever attending another game. Turns out, the Rockies' mascot is named Dinger and the man was trying to get his attention so his grandson could get a photo with him. He wasn't even facing the batter when he was screaming Dinger, but they went with the old white man screaming the N word angle because they're desperate to keep racism rolling.
One more. I’m pretty sure LeBron lied about the n word being spray painted on his gate. The official story is that the n word was spray painted on his gate, but it had been painted over by the time the cops arrived to his home 😂. They received the call at like 6am. So was the paint for the gate just lying around the house? I guess someone sprinted outside to paint the fence with the paint that just so happened to be at the house, all before the cops arrived? Not to mention, of all the wealthy people in his Brentwood neighborhood, no houses had any cameras?

I could literally go on all day about racial hoaxes, but I find this one particularly ridiculous and funny.
 
There was also the Rockies fan who was accused of screaming the N word at an opposing player. They tried to get him fired from his job and shamed him on his social media. The Rockies even initially banned him from ever attending another game. Turns out, the Rockies' mascot is named Dinger and the man was trying to get his attention so his grandson could get a photo with him. He wasn't even facing the batter when he was screaming Dinger, but they went with the old white man screaming the N word angle because they're desperate to keep racism rolling.
Part of the explanation exonerating this guy is that the mascot's name sounds similar when yelled in a stadium filled with elevens of Rockies fans. That's kinda an acknowledgement that it was a reasonable mistake on the part of the original accuser(s). Did it assume the worst? Absolutely, but y'all wouldn't think twice about a home owner answering their door with a gun (nor would I), so let's not get into judging who does and doesn't have a good reason to be on guard against potential threats.

So on the bold, I really don't think this is the best example of that. Notice I'm not arguing about every example. I'm referring to this one specifically. I think the process through which you've reached the conclusion in the bold is no different -- for better or worse -- than that of the person who thought this Rockies' fan was yelling something else.

Notice also I'm not asking for proof of this incident happening at all, or accusing you of making it up because you're desperate to keep "reverse racism" rolling. I'm taking you at your word, which is much more than any of y'all here ever due when it's a BIPOC accusing a white person of racism.
 
Part of the explanation exonerating this guy is that the mascot's name sounds similar when yelled in a stadium filled with elevens of Rockies fans. That's kinda an acknowledgement that it was a reasonable mistake on the part of the original accuser(s). Did it assume the worst? Absolutely, but y'all wouldn't think twice about a home owner answering their door with a gun (nor would I), so let's not get into judging who does and doesn't have a good reason to be on guard against potential threats.

So on the bold, I really don't think this is the best example of that. Notice I'm not arguing about every example. I'm referring to this one specifically. I think the process through which you've reached the conclusion in the bold is no different -- for better or worse -- than that of the person who thought this Rockies' fan was yelling something else.

Notice also I'm not asking for proof of this incident happening at all, or accusing you of making it up because you're desperate to keep "reverse racism" rolling. I'm taking you at your word, which is much more than any of y'all here ever due when it's a BIPOC accusing a white person of racism.
Fair, but if anyone in the Rockies org had bothered talking to the man before banning him for life they could have gotten to the bottom of it. Before taking such drastic measures, they should have done their due diligence. Here’s a more realistic example of what actually happens in real time when a fan uses a racial slur. This example has the ring of truth for several reasons: a) the fan was confronted at the event for using the slur b) later the fan apologized ( admission of culpability not denial) as he was a “ public figure” c) fan was kicked off baseball team

 
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Part of the explanation exonerating this guy is that the mascot's name sounds similar when yelled in a stadium filled with elevens of Rockies fans. That's kinda an acknowledgement that it was a reasonable mistake on the part of the original accuser(s). Did it assume the worst? Absolutely, but y'all wouldn't think twice about a home owner answering their door with a gun (nor would I), so let's not get into judging who does and doesn't have a good reason to be on guard against potential threats.

So on the bold, I really don't think this is the best example of that. Notice I'm not arguing about every example. I'm referring to this one specifically. I think the process through which you've reached the conclusion in the bold is no different -- for better or worse -- than that of the person who thought this Rockies' fan was yelling something else.

Notice also I'm not asking for proof of this incident happening at all, or accusing you of making it up because you're desperate to keep "reverse racism" rolling. I'm taking you at your word, which is much more than any of y'all here ever due when it's a BIPOC accusing a white person of racism.
There has been so many false accusations of racism and racism hoaxes over the past few years that anyone would be right to be skeptical of the accusations. Don't blame those who automatically question the sincerity of the claims. Blame the people who created the world where it gives merit to the skepticism. Mainly progressives and the media. When you're programmed to see and hear racism in everything, it's easy to assume an old white man would be so brazen to scream the N word in a crowd of thousands including many black people. ESPN rolled with it without hesitation. It was all over every talking head show. But they spent 30 seconds to explain that the fan was not this hood wearing klansmen screaming racial slurs at one particularly unpopular baseball player, but not the dozens of other black players or fans. Just some random guy on the Marlins.
 
There has been so many false accusations of racism and racism hoaxes over the past few years that anyone would be right to be skeptical of the accusations. Don't blame those who automatically question the sincerity of the claims. Blame the people who created the world where it gives merit to the skepticism. Mainly progressives and the media. When you're programmed to see and hear racism in everything, it's easy to assume an old white man would be so brazen to scream the N word in a crowd of thousands including many black people. ESPN rolled with it without hesitation. It was all over every talking head show. But they spent 30 seconds to explain that the fan was not this hood wearing klansmen screaming racial slurs at one particularly unpopular baseball player, but not the dozens of other black players or fans. Just some random guy on the Marlins.
It’s in the best interest of both progressives and the media to keep “racism” alive. That’s why they will literally never question said accusations. I would compare it to a ghost hunter hearing a noise in their home and believing there is no other explanation besides ghosts.
 
There has been so many false accusations of racism and racism hoaxes over the past few years that anyone would be right to be skeptical of the accusations. Don't blame those who automatically question the sincerity of the claims. Blame the people who created the world where it gives merit to the skepticism. Mainly progressives and the media. When you're programmed to see and hear racism in everything, it's easy to assume an old white man would be so brazen...
There ha[ve] been so many genuine acts of racism and excused racism over the entire history of our country that anyone would be right to be on the lookout for racism. Don't blame those who automatically suspect racism. Blame the people who created the world where it gives merit to the suspicions. Mainly conservatives and their media. When you're programmed to dismiss racism in everything, it's easy to assume Black people are maliciously and knowingly lying.

^I'm not dismissing what you said; I am pointing out how there is a flipside. Until we acknowledge that those flipsides can exist simultaneously and stop assuming the worst of the other, it's just gonna perpetuate division.
 
There ha[ve] been so many genuine acts of racism and excused racism over the entire history of our country that anyone would be right to be on the lookout for racism. Don't blame those who automatically suspect racism. Blame the people who created the world where it gives merit to the suspicions. Mainly conservatives and their media. When you're programmed to dismiss racism in everything, it's easy to assume Black people are maliciously and knowingly lying.

^I'm not dismissing what you said; I am pointing out how there is a flipside. Until we acknowledge that those flipsides can exist simultaneously and stop assuming the worst of the other, it's just gonna perpetuate division.
The racial hoaxes have been amplified by the conservative media, I’ll grant you, but let’s not lose sight of how they came to be in the first place. An msm so desperate to push an agenda they are willing to accept an obviously preposterous account such as Smolette’s and present it as Exhibit A of how racist MAGA loving white men are. Who can save the frightened and vulnerable from the evil MAGA movement?
Why, Democrats of course. Get to the polls. If you can't, maybe your neighbor has a spare mail in ballot lying around.
 
It’s in the best interest of both progressives and the media to keep “racism” alive. That’s why they will literally never question said accusations. I would compare it to a ghost hunter hearing a noise in their home and believing there is no other explanation besides ghosts.
It’s in the best interest of both conservatives and institutional racism to keep “racism” from being identified. That’s why they will literally never accept said accusations. I would compare it to a ghost hunter hearing a noise in their home and believing there is no other explanation besides ghosts.

^I'm not dismissing what you said; I am pointing out how there is a flipside. Until we acknowledge that those flipsides can exist simultaneously and stop assuming the worst of the other, it's just gonna perpetuate division.
 
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