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you said...."Glad to see you guys are now paying a little bit of attention. Unlike you liberals, we hope the truth comes out, and whoever is behind the leak needs to be held accountable."

the journalist is the one who leaked it....so is it who added the journalist, def a mistake or is it the messaging of the information on the app?
I never said the journalist was the one responsible. HE SHOULD NEVER HAVE GOTTEN IN ON THIS GROUP CHAT!! Like I said, I don't know the facts, but it's been painted (figure of speech ok?) that someone added this journalist in to this group chat. If true, there's the problem, and that person needs to be held accountable.

Do you intentionally not pay attention, is it a comprehension issue, or you just trolling??
 
I never said the journalist was the one responsible. HE SHOULD NEVER HAVE GOTTEN IN ON THIS GROUP CHAT!! Like I said, I don't know the facts, but it's been painted (figure of speech ok?) that someone added this journalist in to this group chat. If true, there's the problem, and that person needs to be held accountable.

Do you intentionally not pay attention, is it a comprehension issue, or you just trolling??
Mac we appear to be on two different pages and your last sentence is def why I don't too much engage in just trying to have conversation...so this is it b4 I bow out....you said the leaker needs to be held accountable, the journalist IS THE LEAKER, he let the cat out the bag on the whole group chat...so you have issue with mistake of including the journalist, but not following the protocol of the information that was being chatted about?
 
Glad to see you guys are now paying a little bit of attention. Unlike you liberals, we hope the truth comes out, and whoever is behind the leak needs to be held accountable.
whoever is behind the leak, please explain???....you mean who added the reporter?...what about just the content of the thread and where it was being had?
I thought I was pretty clear about what I said. Whoever is behind this needs to be held accountable. I'm not making excuses, this should never have happened.
I don't remember you being critical at all the last 4 years though. And believe me, it was 4 years of disaster. But when you did show up, it was to make excuses for what was going on.
well you were only clear about the leaker being accountable...so i am guessing you are only talking about the journalist?....well I dont believe it was a disaster, so...and I didn't defend anything, actually I wasn't contributing...and so far now, I only asked what yall think about the Signal mess...I didn't point any fingers
I want to know the truth, wherever it falls. No idea where you got the idea I'm blaming the journalist. I don't know the facts. I've heard a story that the journalist got added to the group. If true, whoever added him needs to be held accountable. Please read that again if you need to.

And spare me the "you want the truth" spill. None of you were interested in it over the last 4.5 years.
you said...."Glad to see you guys are now paying a little bit of attention. Unlike you liberals, we hope the truth comes out, and whoever is behind the leak needs to be held accountable."

the journalist is the one who leaked it....so is it who added the journalist, def a mistake or is it the messaging of the information on the app?

I never said the journalist was the one responsible. HE SHOULD NEVER HAVE GOTTEN IN ON THIS GROUP CHAT!! Like I said, I don't know the facts, but it's been painted (figure of speech ok?) that someone added this journalist in to this group chat. If true, there's the problem, and that person needs to be held accountable.

Do you intentionally not pay attention, is it a comprehension issue, or you just trolling??
Mac we appear to be on two different pages and your last sentence is def why I don't too much engage in just trying to have conversation...so this is it b4 I bow out....you said the leaker needs to be held accountable, the journalist IS THE LEAKER, he let the cat out the bag on the whole group chat...so you have issue with mistake of including the journalist, but not following the protocol of the information that was being chatted about?
I went ahead tagged all our exchanges on this. My first message on this clearly says "Whoever is behind the leak." This was not an accusation at the journalist. Again, I thought what I've said is pretty straightforward. Apparently it hasn't been.

I'm really trying to be patient with you.
 
This is always good. A white man telling a Black man that he’s experienced racism, he just doesn’t know it.
Classic.
I’ve never questioned his personal experience. If you actually read, you know this. He denies the existence of racism and says Black people were better off under Jim Crow. Got anything to say about that, or have you found the only Black person whose opinion on racism you accept?
 
You mean if you’re Black you can’t trust all Black people?
So as a white man I can’t trust all other white men and women?
If I’d known that earlier in life, I could have been spared a world of hurt
Nope. Not what it means. And you don’t gaML what it means, so no point continuing with you.
 
I want to know the truth, wherever it falls. No idea where you got the idea I'm blaming the journalist. I don't know the facts. I've heard a story that the journalist got added to the group. If true, whoever added him needs to be held accountable. Please read that again if you need to.

And spare me the "you want the truth" spill. None of you were interested in it over the last 4.5 years.
You don’t know the facts?! Are you hiding from them?!

You haven’t wanted the truth. You want a fix for your rage. That’s all you ever accept as truth.
 
This is always good. A white man telling a Black man that he’s experienced racism, he just doesn’t know it.
Classic.
This is also what y’all accuse white liberals of all the time: making any disagreement a white person has with a Black person about their race.
 
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I’ve never questioned his personal experience. If you actually read, you know this. He denies the existence of racism and says Black people were better off under Jim Crow. Got anything to say about that, or have you found the only Black person whose opinion on racism you accept?
Correct. It’s an ambiguous and useless word to control and spook people just like you who have little to no critical thinking skills.
 
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I went ahead tagged all our exchanges on this. My first message on this clearly says "Whoever is behind the leak." This was not an accusation at the journalist. Again, I thought what I've said is pretty straightforward. Apparently it hasn't been.

I'm really trying to be patient with you.
You can stop if your patience is out, I wont loose any sleep.....The JOURNALIST IS BEHIND THE LEAK...he is the one that was added to the chat accidently and brought forth/LEAKED it out....if he wasn't added, we'd never know about this.....know if you meant to say whoever is behind including the journalist needs to be held accountable, that's a whole different take, and that take still doesn't address the material that was being chatted about and not in normal protocol or procedure, but I digress...
 
Nope. Not what it means. And you don’t gaML what it means, so no point continuing with you.
Come on now Professor. Please tell me what it means since you’re the curator of the Black experience on this board.
I must confess I was only slightly intrigued when Boogi called me a simpleton for not understanding the profundity of the expression, but now that you’ve doubled down on the condescension I’m literally about to wet my pants.
Enlighten us Sharpton.
 
So, I think it would be perfectly acceptable to say that family values and strong work ethic in black households were stronger in the Jim Crow era. And in many ways, that would mean they had it better than they do today. Obviously there are many things today that are better on social levels. But there's no denying that there was and still is a collective effort to keep minority communities dependent on the government and the foundation for doing that was separating the families by incentiviziing single motherhood. And of course funneling drugs and creating turf wars from within the community played a role.
 
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This is also what y’all accuse white liberals of all the time: making any disagreement a white person has with a Black person about their race.
Uh, you were literally talking about race. So the race of the two talking is bound to come up. Do you even hear yourself?
 
Come on now Professor. Please tell me what it means since you’re the curator of the Black experience on this board.
I must confess I was only slightly intrigued when Boogi called me a simpleton for not understanding the profundity of the expression, but now that you’ve doubled down on the condescension I’m literally about to wet my pants.
Enlighten us Sharpton.
no sir, I did not and will not resort to any name calling of any sort here...

you said:
You mean if you’re Black you can’t trust all Black people?
So as a white man I can’t trust all other white men and women?
If I’d known that earlier in life, I could have been spared a world of hurt

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stone, its a bit more to it than that simplicity...
 
I went ahead tagged all our exchanges on this. My first message on this clearly says "Whoever is behind the leak." This was not an accusation at the journalist. Again, I thought what I've said is pretty straightforward. Apparently it hasn't been.

I'm really trying to be patient with you.
You’ve been more than patient. He was just troating this board (troll gloat).
Nothing short of demanding Trump’s impeachment will be enough for these folks.
 
no sir, I did not and will not resort to any name calling of any sort here...

you said:
You mean if you’re Black you can’t trust all Black people?
So as a white man I can’t trust all other white men and women?
If I’d known that earlier in life, I could have been spared a world of hurt

I said:
stone, its a bit more to it than that simplicity...
If you’re gonna call my post simple, you’re entitled to your opinion, but tell me what Im missing I’d rather you explain it than the other one
 
So, I think it would be perfectly acceptable to say that family values and strong work ethic in black households were stronger in the Jim Crow era. And in many ways, that would mean they had it better than they do today. Obviously there are many things today that are better on social levels. But there's no denying that there was and still is a collective effort to keep minority communities dependent on the government and the foundation for doing that was separating the families by incentiviziing single motherhood. And of course funneling drugs and creating turf wars from within the community played a role.
I will agree that family values were probably stronger/much higher then because AA had to ban together and watch out for each other for their general safety during that time...BUT life wasn't much better when you were looked upon as less than person and could be snatched up at anytime for any reason, raped, beaten, harrassed, murdered, or be hung from a tree just for the color of skin
 
Come on now Professor. Please tell me what it means since you’re the curator of the Black experience on this board.
I must confess I was only slightly intrigued when Boogi called me a simpleton for not understanding the profundity of the expression, but now that you’ve doubled down on the condescension I’m literally about to wet my pants.
Enlighten us Sharpton.
Nope. Not what it means. And you don’t gaML what it means, so no point continuing with you.
First rule of being an effective writer: know your audience. Most of us don’t hang out with teenagers all day and don’t have the slightest clue what gaML means.
 
If you’re gonna call my post simple, you’re entitled to your opinion, but tell me what Im missing I’d rather you explain it than the other one
didnt call you a simpleton or that your post was "simple"....just said the phrase/meaning isn't as simple as your take of
You mean if you’re Black you can’t trust all Black people?
So as a white man I can’t trust all other white men and women?
 
So, I think it would be perfectly acceptable to say that family values and strong work ethic in black households were stronger in the Jim Crow era. And in many ways, that would mean they had it better than they do today. Obviously there are many things today that are better on social levels. But there's no denying that there was and still is a collective effort to keep minority communities dependent on the government and the foundation for doing that was separating the families by incentiviziing single motherhood. And of course funneling drugs and creating turf wars from within the community played a role.
I agree with all of this. I just don’t think it’s solely based on race. I don’t think the powers that be are saying “We hate black people so let’s solely go after them”. Similarly, slave owners weren’t saying “We want to enslave people solely because of the color of their skin”. The powers that be see black people as the easiest to manipulate and crookedly create wealth. That’s why they do it. If the powers that be felt it was easier to manipulate white people, which they also do in many cases, they would make them their main target. The only color these crooks care about is green.
 
I will agree that family values were probably stronger/much higher then because AA had to ban together and watch out for each other for their general safety during that time...BUT life wasn't much better when you were looked upon as less than person and could be snatched up at anytime for any reason, raped, beaten, harrassed, murdered, or be hung from a tree just for the color of skin
Blacks were less likely to be assaulted or killed back then than now. But it’s mostly black on black crime now so the Left doesn’t cover it.
There were crimes committed and the govt was either complicit directly or just looked the other way, which is sinister and not dissimilar from South Africa during the apartheid era.
But in terms of sheer numbers, Blacks are killed more today than during Jim Crow.
 
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didnt call you a simpleton or that your post was "simple"....just said the phrase/meaning isn't as simple as your take of
You mean if you’re Black you can’t trust all Black people?
So as a white man I can’t trust all other white men and women?
I stripped the folksiness from the words and laid bare the logic contained therein.
That’s the part you didn’t like.
 
I agree with all of this. I just don’t think it’s solely based on race. I don’t think the powers that be are saying “We hate black people so let’s solely go after them”. Similarly, slave owners weren’t saying “We want to enslave people solely because of the color of their skin”. The powers that be see black people as the easiest to manipulate and crookedly create wealth. That’s why they do it. If the powers that be felt it was easier to manipulate white people, which they also do in many cases, they would make them their main target. The only color these crooks care about is green.
Dems got the AA population hooked on govt assistance when they were at their most vulnerable and broken. Not cool.
 
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Blacks were less likely to be assaulted or killed back then than now. But it’s mostly black on black crime now so the Left doesn’t cover it.
There were crimes committed and the govt was either complicit directly or just looked the other way, which is sinister and not dissimilar from South Africa during the apartheid era.
But in terms of sheer numbers, Blacks are killed more today than during Jim Crow.
Once you start diving deep into what happened back then, you will find two things. 1) Murder, rape, assault, etc with regards to white on black is greatly exaggerated. Did it happen? Of course. Is it the narrative that the media wants you to believe? Not even close. 2) Guess which party was responsible for everything negative that happened to black people. I’ll give you a hint. It wasn’t Republicans.
 
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I’ve never questioned his personal experience. If you actually read, you know this. He denies the existence of racism and says Black people were better off under Jim Crow. Got anything to say about that, or have you found the only Black person whose opinion on racism you accept?
The poverty rates were in the 50s back then and usually around 20% for the AA now. A much higher % of AAs are getting four year degrees and in the middle class now.
Out of wedlock birth rates are now around 80% compared to about 25 then. Crime is up, but this is unreliable since many Blacks in the Crow era didn’t report crime since the cops in a lot of places didn’t adequately respond to Black neighborhoods.
 
Dems got the AA population hooked on govt assistance when they were at their most vulnerable and broken. Not cool.
Has the Democratic Party ever done anything positive for the black community? Every single issue in the black community can be tied directly to either a Dem policy or ideology that has been pushed on us.
 
Once you start diving deep into what happened back then, you will find two things. 1) Murder, rape, assault, etc with regards to white on black is greatly exaggerated. Did it happen? Of course. Is it the narrative that the media wants you to believe? Not even close. 2) Guess which party was responsible for everything negative that happened to black people. I’ll give you a hint. It wasn’t Republicans.
We saw this in the wake of the Floyd killing when random people were asked on the street: How many Black men are killed by cops every year in America? Many answered thousands when you strip away the Michael Brown self defense type cases you’re left with literally like FIVE cases that are unquestionably bad shoots.
Then, there’s the tricky part about proving the cop had racist intent.
If racism is the cause of every Black wrongful death, then why are white men killed at a rate roughly the same?
 
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Has the Democratic Party ever done anything positive for the black community? Every single issue in the black community can be tied directly to either a Dem policy or ideology that has been pushed on us.
I’ll defer to the Professor’s expertise on that one.
 
I will agree that family values were probably stronger/much higher then because AA had to ban together and watch out for each other for their general safety during that time...BUT life wasn't much better when you were looked upon as less than person and could be snatched up at anytime for any reason, raped, beaten, harrassed, murdered, or be hung from a tree just for the color of skin
The things you bring up were definitely happening at the beginning of the era and to a much less extent towards the middle. Not so much during the time the families were strategically being divided.
 
I agree with all of this. I just don’t think it’s solely based on race. I don’t think the powers that be are saying “We hate black people so let’s solely go after them”. Similarly, slave owners weren’t saying “We want to enslave people solely because of the color of their skin”. The powers that be see black people as the easiest to manipulate and crookedly create wealth. That’s why they do it. If the powers that be felt it was easier to manipulate white people, which they also do in many cases, they would make them their main target. The only color these crooks care about is green.
That’s what’s backfired on them re: Hispanic immigrants and voting. They failed to realize that they come here with a defined set of values, work ethic, often religious.
They can’t indoctrinate them with a victim mindset in our public schools for 15 years. They’re tuning the Dems out, don’t want to hear it.
In some areas, they’ve cornered the market in some trades. They don’t have to worry about racist bosses. They’re their own bosses.
They get the work if they have the lowest bid, plain and simple.
 
I agree with all of this. I just don’t think it’s solely based on race. I don’t think the powers that be are saying “We hate black people so let’s solely go after them”. Similarly, slave owners weren’t saying “We want to enslave people solely because of the color of their skin”. The powers that be see black people as the easiest to manipulate and crookedly create wealth. That’s why they do it. If the powers that be felt it was easier to manipulate white people, which they also do in many cases, they would make them their main target. The only color these crooks care about is green.
It's not solely based on race. But race is the crutch of their pursuit. That's why progressives say it is racist to want to quit giving out welfare or to blame someone's own life choices on their lack of wealth. They may not be targeting blacks because of their skin color. But they are absolutely targeting them to keep the divide.
 
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We saw this in the wake of the Floyd killing when random people were asked on the street: How many Black men are killed by cops every year in America? Many answered thousands when you strip away the Michael Brown self defense type cases you’re left with literally like FIVE cases that are unquestionably bad shoots.
Then, there’s the tricky part about proving the cop had racist intent.
If racism is the cause of every Black wrongful death, then why are white men killed at a rate roughly the same?
That’s why I believe “racism” is a flawed concept. It’s a useless word just used to divide and spook white people. You have to know the races of the people to know whether it was supposed “racism” or not. So if a white cop pulls me over as a black man and mistreats me, it’s “racism”. If a white cop pulls a white man over and the same exact thing happens, what is it called?
 
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I will agree that family values were probably stronger/much higher then because AA had to ban together and watch out for each other for their general safety during that time...BUT life wasn't much better when you were looked upon as less than person and could be snatched up at anytime for any reason, raped, beaten, harrassed, murdered, or be hung from a tree just for the color of skin
During the Floyd era the Left was always telling us that things hadn’t gotten better, that Black men were being “rounded up” and randomly killed. So were the Leftist commentators at the time lying to us?
 
We have quite the pair of liberals in this thread. As we all know, @Dattier is one cunning rascal. A master of word dissection, and able to twist a post more than a pretzel. Then you have @BOOGIEMAN1914. Wow, this guy is something else. He's very nice, but it's totally exhausting to deal with him.

These two are the 2025 version of the Odd Couple.
 
It's not solely based on race. But race is the crutch of their pursuit. That's why progressives say it is racist to want to quit giving out welfare or to blame someone's own life choices on their lack of wealth. They may not be targeting blacks because of their skin color. But they are absolutely targeting them to keep the divide.
Agreed. If “racism” goes away, what the heck will their message to Black Dems be lol? That’s why they try to manipulate Black Dems by stocking “racism”. And the cherry on top is white liberals patting black people on the head and essentially saying “You can’t do any better so I’m here to save you!”
 
We have quite the pair of liberals in this thread. As we all know, @Dattier is one cunning rascal. A master of word dissection, and able to twist a post more than a pretzel. Then you have @BOOGIEMAN1914. Wow, this guy is something else. He's very nice, but it's totally exhausting to deal with him.

These two are the 2025 version of the Odd Couple.
I like Boogie’s position on name calling. Maybe it’s a good cop bad cop deal they’ve worked out. He knows that whatever name he’d like to call us Datt will get around to it sooner or later.
 
We have quite the pair of liberals in this thread. As we all know, @Dattier is one cunning rascal. A master of word dissection, and able to twist a post more than a pretzel. Then you have @BOOGIEMAN1914. Wow, this guy is something else. He's very nice, but it's totally exhausting to deal with him.

These two are the 2025 version of the Odd Couple.
Likewise to some degree, but hey, you can't please everybody...You clearly said the LEAKER needs to held ACCOUNTABLE..I still think it’s pretty simple, you're more bothered by the leak than the situation it seems, but it's all good...we can eventually find some common ground somewhere..it's possible...
 
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I like Boogie’s position on name calling. Maybe it’s a good cop bad cop deal they’ve worked out. He knows that whatever name he’d like to call us Datt will get around to it sooner or later.
Lol..that's funny...for real...but that isn't how I move..
 
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Come on now Professor. Please tell me what it means since you’re the curator of the Black experience on this board.
I must confess I was only slightly intrigued when Boogi called me a simpleton for not understanding the profundity of the expression, but now that you’ve doubled down on the condescension I’m literally about to wet my pants.
Enlighten us Sharpton.
Nope. If you understand why we have Black History month but not White History Month, or why Black Pride is an acceptable concept and White Pride isn’t, then you can figure it out yourself.
 
Agreed. If “racism” goes away, what the heck will their message to Black Dems be lol? That’s why they try to manipulate Black Dems by stocking “racism”. And the cherry on top is white liberals patting black people on the head and essentially saying “You can’t do any better so I’m here to save you!”
That’s such an old, tired trope. It’s like you watched YouTube videos of Malcolm X and read some memes and think you have wisdom.
I’m not here to save anyone. My work isn’t about saving anyone.
What is your work about?
 
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