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[GhostOf301]

@eldritchorifice you say things I don't like so you big dumb Unga bunga.

Also I never got a real answer about the issue of Trump openly stating he plans to consolidate more power to the executive branch if he takes office again.

I'll give you my opinion. I don't like it. It will only set further precedents for the left to exploit. And the right further down the road. But again, someone like yourself who wants to stack the courts, really has no business whining about a hypothetical like this.

 

[GhostOf301]

What do you plan to do with the millions who would otherwise be aborted? Are you going to adopt them? Force the mother who didn't want them to take care of them? Put them in the care of the government? And stop pretend like women use abortion like contraception. For the vast majority of women it's a backup plan in case the other things fail.

It used to be, bUt WhAt aBoUt raPe AnD iNcESt? Now it's just okay if the woman just doesn't want the baby.

There are so many ways to prevent pregnancies. Boo hoo if an irresponsible woman can't get an abortion after 12 weeks in some states, or she can't get it on the tax payer's dime. I never really cared enough about the issue to let it bother me. But the way people are just okay with abortions just for convenience is sick. And late term abortion? Disgusting.

 

[Mac9192]

What do you plan to do with the millions who would otherwise be aborted? Are you going to adopt them? Force the mother who didn't want them to take care of them? Put them in the care of the government?

The government is doing their part to "thin the herd." They put Planned Parenthood clinics in the poor areas. Another way that's very cunning is through the multiple Covid vaccines. They'll be plenty of young kids that won't be able to get pregnant in 10-15 years. That's also not counting what health issues that may arise down the road on thousands of folks that took multiple shots.

Dang it, I put my conspiracy hat on. Sorry.

 

[Fourteen44]

I mean, you're incapable of accepting facts that disprove your opinions, you're incapable of feeling empathy for anyone who doesn't fit into your narrow view of normal and you immediately start throwing off insults instead of actually making a somewhat compelling case for your position. So I can kind of guess as to what kind of person you are.

As far as my political opinions go, I form most of these by listening to the people around me and listening to people who know more about their field of study than I do. I dont really watch "liberal media" or hang on to every word that rolls out of the democrats mouths like you think I do. I also don't purport to have an immediate answer for every single issue that arises.

Corporations are absolutely an enormous asset to the country and world. Never said they weren't, but they're also rife with corruption and abuse from the top down due to the fact that a lot of their business practices still aren't properly regulated. Along with issues like an abysmal minimum wages, those at the top have way, way too much power over those at the bottom, which in turn leads to these corrupt companies to way too large of an impact on the population and our politics.

A corporation should be ran by the people who work there, not by some out of touch CEO whose only concern is how to make his shareholders more money in the next quarter. But yeah, one of my major issues with Republicans is their unwavering support to these corporations by helping them cut through any red tape or lowering their taxes to nearly nothing. It's not good for the long term health of our country.

But of course, you are a Republican so you're going to see any issues with pursuing short term profits at the expense of all else.

As for women's healthcare, Republicans have gutted access to abortion at every turn. Abortion is healthcare, and this isn't up for debate. You throw yourself on the floor and kick and scream about the lives of the unborn while giving exactly zero thought to the lives of the people who are already here. Can't call yourself pro-life when you're killing women by the hundreds to support some backwards ass law just to give yourself more power over your wife.

Lastly, for climate change, there's literally mountains of evidence that say the opposite to what you're saying. You are not a climate expert, however the people who are, have been sounding the alarm on this for decades. Maybe it's time to stop trying to break the world record for shoving your head up your ass the farthest and start listening to people who just might know a little better than you.

Like the folks at MIT, heard they're pretty smart https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/how-do-greenhouse-gases-trap-heat-atmosphere

Or the European Enviroment Agency https://www.eea.europa.eu/en/topics/in-depth/climate-change-mitigation-reducing-emissions

Or NASA https://climate.nasa.gov/solutions/adaptation-mitigation/

Did you really cite the Leftist run MIT? Even then, all 3 sources loaded with simple hypothesis, and a ton of “maybe” and “possible”. Ouch. Nothing near “proof”.

Abortion technically isn’t heath care unless it’s used to save a life. Otherwise, in most cases, it’s a reactive birth control and clinical murder of an unborn child. I don’t think gov should be involved, but again your clinical idiocy screams here. Just because you’re for murder, don’t try to spin as a routine part of “healthcare”.

And I’m waiting for these facts you keep talking about. Where are they?

 

[Fourteen44]

@eldritchorifice you say things I don't like so you big dumb Unga bunga.

Also I never got a real answer about the issue of Trump openly stating he plans to consolidate more power to the executive branch if he takes office again.

I never got a real answer of you being gay. You clearly said you’d date a biological male.

 

[eldritchorifice]

It used to be, bUt WhAt aBoUt raPe AnD iNcESt? Now it's just okay if the woman just doesn't want the baby.

There are so many ways to prevent pregnancies. Boo hoo if an irresponsible woman can't get an abortion after 12 weeks in some states, or she can't get it on the tax payer's dime. I never really cared enough about the issue to let it bother me. But the way people are just okay with abortions just for convenience is sick. And late term abortion? Disgusting.

Well now we're getting some honesty from you. You don't care about the issue, probably because no one you know personally has had to deal with it. And yeah, its fine if the woman doesn't want the baby. Shit happens dude, just because you have sex doesn't mean you want a baby. We wouldn't have other, far less invasive forms of contraception if people only ****ed to have a baby.

Then you know there's all sorts of problems that can arrive while carrying a child that can necessitate an abortion. Again, you're doing that thing where you demonize the target of your opinion in order to justify it.

 

[eldritchorifice]

Did you really cite the Leftist run MIT? Even then, all 3 sources loaded with simple hypothesis, and a ton of “maybe” and “possible”. Ouch. Nothing near “proof”.

Abortion technically isn’t heath care unless it’s used to save a life. Otherwise, in most cases, it’s a reactive birth control and clinical murder of an unborn child. I don’t think gov should be involved, but again your clinical idiocy screams here. Just because you’re for murder, don’t try to spin as a routine part of “healthcare”.

And I’m waiting for these facts you keep talking about. Where are they?

You work in an administrative position in healthcare don't you? There's no way you made it through medical school with suck a total lack of understanding on basic anatomical concepts.

Facts, complications arise in pregnancy that necessitate abortions. Facts, women are fully developed human beings with minds and feelings of their own, sperm, eggs, zygotes and fetuses are not.

If MIT is leftist, then maybe there's a reason for that other than "leftist con$piracy!!!!!!! Omfgbbq"

Reality has a liberal bias. Deal with it you Neanderthal.

 

[Topps Coach54]

You mean the SCOTUS legislating from the bench. Yeah it's pretty shit. But of course thats not an issue to you because theyre only hurting the people you want to hurt.

Of course I want the democrats to stack the court. It's not gonna happen because Biden is not going to stir the pot. Should he? Of course, Republicans have gerrymandering damn near every single race in this country because they cannot win without it. Time we do something similar.

So I assume you had no problem with left leaning Justices legislating for years since they pandered to your political preferences.Please explain why making decisions based on what the constitution actually says is destructive

 

[GhostOf301]

Well now we're getting some honesty from you. You don't care about the issue, probably because no one you know personally has had to deal with it. And yeah, its fine if the woman doesn't want the baby. Shit happens dude, just because you have sex doesn't mean you want a baby. We wouldn't have other, far less invasive forms of contraception if people only ****ed to have a baby.

Then you know there's all sorts of problems that can arrive while carrying a child that can necessitate an abortion. Again, you're doing that thing where you demonize the target of your opinion in order to justify it.

More parroting liberal talking points. The point you're not parroting is that there are so many ways to avoid getting pregnant. And using abortion as birth control is evil. I have zero sympathy for anyone who is inconvenienced in any way by abortion laws when all they're doing is just getting rid of a baby. Don't even bring up complications and other reasons for abortion. You are okay with it being birth control and that makes you an incredible piece of shit. It definitely doesn't make you sympathetic.

 

[Fourteen44]

You work in an administrative position in healthcare don't you? There's no way you made it through medical school with suck a total lack of understanding on basic anatomical concepts.

Facts, complications arise in pregnancy that necessitate abortions. Facts, women are fully developed human beings with minds and feelings of their own, sperm, eggs, zygotes and fetuses are not.

If MIT is leftist, then maybe there's a reason for that other than "leftist con$piracy!!!!!!! Omfgbbq"

Reality has a liberal bias. Deal with it you Neanderthal.

Admin position? Hahaaahaaa. And don’t try to question my clinical knowledge there, Dahmer. You can’t even understand basic biological fact. And to think, you’d date a biological male. You’re gay, all good.

In most cases abortion is unnecessary termination aka murder. A life is a life, clinically at conception. Instead you think it’s just another bodily fluid/liquid/etc. Your subjective thoughts do not equate to clinical fact. It’s okay, you’re for “BLM”, yet you support the biggest murder of blacks (more than any other race). This shows your absolute hypocrisy AND idiocy all in one point.

You just finished screaming about how “corporations” hold everyone down, all while ignoring one of the biggest con artists around: public and private colleges. Evading taxes and raping people for over 100 years, making school unaffordable all while not “paying their fair share”, as you say. MIT? A picture perfect example 😂.

Reality has a Liberal bias? Neanderthal? Coming from a guy who says he’s straight but would date a “woman” with a dick? 😳. And to think, I’m the Neanderthal yet you’re the one financially enslaved because you’re too stupid to create your own financial independence.

Ps - nice job avoiding how all 3 pieces you cited are subjective, full of maybe and possibles.

 

[eldritchorifice]

More parroting liberal talking points. The point you're not parroting is that there are so many ways to avoid getting pregnant. And using abortion as birth control is evil. I have zero sympathy for anyone who is inconvenienced in any way by abortion laws when all they're doing is just getting rid of a baby. Don't even bring up complications and other reasons for abortion. You are okay with it being birth control and that makes you an incredible piece of shit. It definitely doesn't make you sympathetic.

Again, more demonization to justify your stupidity.

 

[Fourteen44]

Murdering black babies because PP wants them gone. Idiots like you, closet gay, Antifa wannabe, will scream “social injustice” from your BLM-flagged suburban apartment, all while continuing support for destruction of the nuclear family (especially in black homes). Insanity.

Gary Franks: Black babies are nearly 40% of U.S. abortions

Is there something wrong with this picture? Nearly 40% of all abortions in America since Roe v. Wade have been from Black Americans. This equates to more than 20 million Black pregnancies aborted. That would be the equivalent to either the populations of New York or Florida. Yet Black people

triblive.com

 

[GhostOf301]

Again, more demonization to justify your stupidity.

Yup. I demonize the women who are too stupid to take the unlimited precautions to avoid getting pregnant because of the convenient fall back in abortion. They're pretty evil.

 

[Fourteen44]

The idiot doesn’t even understand how fertilization works, the union of male and female gametes. Instead he takes his typical subjective Leftist talking points, points that have to be true.

Ps - while us normal people marvel at the above process of nature, he gets upset that we said “male and female” 😂

 

[Fourteen44]

Different topic: you all better buckle up. This is from someone usually spot on:

They operate a mid-sized law firm north of Baltimore with a working-class clientele.

“In the last 60 days, our firm has noticed that clients and potential clients have significantly less money to hire lawyers. Six months ago, clients didn't blink at attorneys fees or even try to negotiate. We have far less business coming in and we are getting nickeled-and-dimed by everyone.

Our business is the canary in the coal mine, as we represent many working-class folks. Like clockwork, our business revenues decline a few months before the rest of the economy does the same, as eventually more affluent people get tapped out, as well. The COVID giveaways have largely ended, and downscale folks have maxed out their credit cards. And just wait for when the millenialls have to restart paying their student loans back in September."

 

[GhostOf301]

Different topic: you all better buckle up. This is from someone usually spot on:

They operate a mid-sized law firm north of Baltimore with a working-class clientele.

“In the last 60 days, our firm has noticed that clients and potential clients have significantly less money to hire lawyers. Six months ago, clients didn't blink at attorneys fees or even try to negotiate. We have far less business coming in and we are getting nickeled-and-dimed by everyone.

Our business is the canary in the coal mine, as we represent many working-class folks. Like clockwork, our business revenues decline a few months before the rest of the economy does the same, as eventually more affluent people get tapped out, as well. The COVID giveaways have largely ended, and downscale folks have maxed out their credit cards. And just wait for when the millenialls have to restart paying their student loans back in September."

The writing is on the wall. High gas prices, diesel in particular, and strategic supply shortages have made material and goods prices unsustainable.

 

[GhostOf301]

I've got to say. Virginia may be waking up. They are shit drivers, but if they can elect a values man for governor and maybe this guy too, I might get over them riding in the left lane at or below the speed limit.



Notice how every single person who came to America from communist and socialist countries loves America. But angry and mentally deranged liberals hate America?

 

[BOOGIEMAN1914]

It used to be, bUt WhAt aBoUt raPe AnD iNcESt? Now it's just okay if the woman just doesn't want the baby.

There are so many ways to prevent pregnancies. Boo hoo if an irresponsible woman can't get an abortion after 12 weeks in some states, or she can't get it on the tax payer's dime. I never really cared enough about the issue to let it bother me. But the way people are just okay with abortions just for convenience is sick. And late term abortion? Disgusting.

Late term abortion isnt a medical termand has become political....look it up....late term abortions are rare about 1%....which is a difficult decison imo and highly comes down to two factors viability outside the womb/fetal anomalies and maternal life endangerment

 

[BOOGIEMAN1914]

The government is doing their part to "thin the herd." They put Planned Parenthood clinics in the poor areas. Another way that's very cunning is through the multiple Covid vaccines. They'll be plenty of young kids that won't be able to get pregnant in 10-15 years. That's also not counting what health issues that may arise down the road on thousands of folks that took multiple shots.

Dang it, I put my conspiracy hat on. Sorry.

thats a big one Mac..=)....

 

[Fourteen44]

Late term abortion isnt a medical termand has become political....look it up....late term abortions are rare about 1%....which is a difficult decison imo and highly comes down to two factors viability outside the womb/fetal anomalies and maternal life endangerment

Later term abortions are on the rise, and are being used more and more in non-life threatening scenarios. It’s sick that it’s considered at ALL if not saving the life of the mother.

 

[GhostOf301]

Late term abortion isnt a medical termand has become political....look it up....late term abortions are rare about 1%....which is a difficult decison imo and highly comes down to two factors viability outside the womb/fetal anomalies and maternal life endangerment

Hatchet murders are pretty rare. So we shouldn't worry about them.

 

[BOOGIEMAN1914]

Later term abortions are on the rise, and are being used more and more in non-life threatening scenarios. It’s sick that it’s considered at ALL if not saving the life of the mother.

Do you have the statistics?....they are def costly...how about the viability of the baby concerns in consideration?....its hard to phathom, 20 plus weeks in, 30 weeks in and you like nah, i dont want want this kid....usually, you would assume, care has been provided, name selected, things purchased, and etc...

 

[BOOGIEMAN1914]

Hatchet murders are pretty rare. So we shouldn't worry about them.

didnt say we shouldnt worry, but def a tough decision that has to be made imo for real reasons...and like anything things can find a way to be taken advantage of

 

[Mac9192]

thats a big one Mac..=)....

Agree. Less than 10 years ago, I would have called someone crazy for thinking that too. But as time has passed, I see how corrupt our media and government are. I think it's obvious. No, I don't dial into Fox News.

But surely you have heard of issues with many after taking the vaccine. Jamie Foxx is a recent example. I know it's been debunked, which is to be expected. But there's too many reports from people after getting jabbed multiple times. The media has done a phenomenal job of squashing any negative vaccine news.

As expected. They receive a lot of money from big pharma.

 

[Fourteen44]

Do you have the statistics?....they are def costly...how about the viability of the baby concerns in consideration?....its hard to phathom, 20 plus weeks in, 30 weeks in and you like nah, i dont want want this kid....usually, you would assume, care has been provided, name selected, things purchased, and etc...

It happens much more than you think. Stats are by hospital, typically, as PP and ACOG DO NOT like to keep these as a lump stat/group.

Just because we feel it’s messed up, doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. You have PP on one side trying to normalize it, then anti-abortion people trying to make any abortion sound bad. In the middle? Abortions of all types are available through the “right” channels.

Also remember there are women out there who have no issue using abortion as birth control. Not overly common, but more and more do it.

 

[Fourteen44]

Btw I believe in choice, but I also feel abortion is murder. My ex had an abortion when I was 20, and afterwards I got into healthcare and studied abortion more. After all of this, I regret it greatly as it’s murder of a child, unborn at that.

 

[BOOGIEMAN1914]

Agree. Less than 10 years ago, I would have called someone crazy for thinking that too. But as time has passed, I see how corrupt our media and government are. I think it's obvious. No, I don't dial into Fox News.

But surely you have heard of issues with many after taking the vaccine. Jamie Foxx is a recent example. I know it's been debunked, which is to be expected. But there's too many reports from people after getting jabbed multiple times. The media has done a phenomenal job of squashing any negative vaccine news.

As expected. They receive a lot of money from big pharma.

from my understanding the covid vaccine bones has been in the works for at least the last 20 years, correct me if i am wrong....at the time of the rollout and the finishing touches, dont you think Trump wouldve sounded off on it, or that was too big for him to rail against?...the jamie foxx issue currently all over the place...stroke, not stroke, out and about, in rehab...confusing....has he been vaccinated?...what are the reports of multiple boosters....to date isnt the number of shots for most people at the moment 4...the original 2 and now 2 boosters?

 

[GhostOf301]

didnt say we shouldnt worry, but def a tough decision that has to be made imo for real reasons...and like anything things can find a way to be taken advantage of

I am specifically taking issue with abortion when it is s form of birth control. It should never be a decision when it is for convenience.

 

[BOOGIEMAN1914]

I am specifically taking issue with abortion when it is s form of birth control. It should never be a decision when it is for convenience.

there we are 100% on the same page.........but then where does choice come in?....i agree it shouldnt be a form of birth control.....should we have some type of law saying you get two timely whoopsies over your life time?...then choice begins to crumble

 

[BOOGIEMAN1914]

Btw I believe in choice, but I also feel abortion is murder. My ex had an abortion when I was 20, and afterwards I got into healthcare and studied abortion more. After all of this, I regret it greatly as it’s murder of a child, unborn at that.

sorry for that....i agree w/ choice, the murder aspect is where I am not quite at....generally you dont know you are pregnant 4-6 weeks in....murder within that 2-3 month window?...do you prescribe to life is at conception?...is life viable at conception?....can the unborn fetus live outside the womb at a 8-9-12 week abortion?

 

[Mac9192]

from my understanding the covid vaccine bones has been in the works for at least the last 20 years, correct me if i am wrong....at the time of the rollout and the finishing touches, dont you think Trump wouldve sounded off on it, or that was too big for him to rail against?...the jamie foxx issue currently all over the place...stroke, not stroke, out and about, in rehab...confusing....has he been vaccinated?...what are the reports of multiple boosters....to date isnt the number of shots for most people at the moment 4...the original 2 and now 2 boosters?

I'm going to need an explanation about covid vaccine bones being in works for at least 20 years. As far as Trump is concerned, had he held up the vaccine rollouts, he would have been crucified. He pushes them out quickly, he seems like he's in on it. He had a horrible, corrupt doctor in Fauci advising him and the country. That little weasel needs to rot in prison.
Trump was in a NO WIN situation with Covid. If you're rational as I think you are, you'll admit at least that part as true.

I'll get back on my soapbox as far as corruption of our government and media. There's too much money being put in pockets to get honest news. The same goes for healthcare.

 

[GhostOf301]

sorry for that....i agree w/ choice, the murder aspect is where I am not quite at....generally you dont know you are pregnant 4-6 weeks in....murder within that 2-3 month window?...do you prescribe to life is at conception?...is life viable at conception?....can the unborn fetus live outside the womb at a 8-9-12 week abortion?

If we are talking about when life becomes viable, then it's a whole different conversation. Life is not viable at birth. A baby can't be born and left to its own devices. It needs to be taken care of. You know you are pregnant when you choose to have an abortion. IMO, whether it is 6-8 weeks (when there is typically knowledge of pregnancy) or 27 weeks. You are ending a life. If you're using the argument that the fetus can't survive on its own anyways, then why not say that you can kill your baby up to a year old, maybe 2 or 3 years old?

 

[Fourteen44]

Working out is now “far right”, obesity is good. Wtf is going on?

Is This the Dumbest Headline in 2023?

youtube.com

 

[Fourteen44]

sorry for that....i agree w/ choice, the murder aspect is where I am not quite at....generally you dont know you are pregnant 4-6 weeks in....murder within that 2-3 month window?...do you prescribe to life is at conception?...is life viable at conception?....can the unborn fetus live outside the womb at a 8-9-12 week abortion?

Thank you.

We have people every day that cannot live without support, do we just kill them?

It’s clear to me that life begins at fertilization. Anything past that is murder.

 

[BOOGIEMAN1914]

I'm going to need an explanation about covid vaccine bones being in works for at least 20 years. As far as Trump is concerned, had he held up the vaccine rollouts, he would have been crucified. He pushes them out quickly, he seems like he's in on it. He had a horrible, corrupt doctor in Fauci advising him and the country. That little weasel needs to rot in prison.
Trump was in a NO WIN situation with Covid. If you're rational as I think you are, you'll admit at least that part as true.

I'll get back on my soapbox as far as corruption of our government and media. There's too much money being put in pockets to get honest news. The same goes for healthcare.

mRNA research and protein blockers, lipids in regards to SARS-Cov2 research that allowed the pivot to the covid-19 vaccine...i dont think trump is crucified if your conspiracy is right, he comes out even greater imo thwarting this sinister plan...i do think i am as rationale as they come and thanks...covid was crazy, so many unknowns and fears and literally seeing so many die so quickly, right out of a movie....i think more truth couldve been shared and instead of the insanity that was being pushed...i think its a difference in doing the best you can in the situation and outright deceiving...

 

[BOOGIEMAN1914]

If we are talking about when life becomes viable, then it's a whole different conversation. Life is not viable at birth. A baby can't be born and left to its own devices. It needs to be taken care of. You know you are pregnant when you choose to have an abortion. IMO, whether it is 6-8 weeks (when there is typically knowledge of pregnancy) or 27 weeks. You are ending a life. If you're using the argument that the fetus can't survive on its own anyways, then why not say that you can kill your baby up to a year old, maybe 2 or 3 years old?

viable in being able to breath and pump blood on its own viable....obliviously cant care for itself, but it can live until the absence of care leads to its demise....some may disagree and say having an abortion at 6-8 weeks isnt ending a life, but denying the chance at life????...just it becomes semantics...27 weeks is near term, should not be allowed unless harm to the mother or something is found in regards to the fetus imo...and we cant kill 2-3 y/os...nope nope nope

 

[BOOGIEMAN1914]

Thank you.

We have people every day that cannot live without support, do we just kill them?

It’s clear to me that life begins at fertilization. Anything past that is murder.

yw.....nope that murder or as mac said thinning the herd and thats where the debate is life begins at conception or when the heart begins to beat/primary organ formation...????

 

[GhostOf301]

viable in being able to breath and pump blood on its own viable....obliviously cant care for itself, but it can live until the absence of care leads to its demise....some may disagree and say having an abortion at 6-8 weeks isnt ending a life, but denying the chance at life????...just it becomes semantics...27 weeks is near term, should not be allowed unless harm to the mother or something is found in regards to the fetus imo...and we cant kill 2-3 y/os...nope nope nope

I think this line of thinking is just to justify the termination. It's to help people who choose to get rid of the baby, sleep at night. Denying the chance at life comes before conception. Abortion is ending a life.

 

[Fourteen44]

yw.....nope that murder or as mac said thinning the herd and thats where the debate is life begins at conception or when the heart begins to beat/primary organ formation...????

We just don’t have the technology to know when there is a heart, or even electrical conduction/foci that far up the chain. Even then, you would be committing preemptive murder…..

 

[Mac9192]

mRNA research and protein blockers, lipids in regards to SARS-Cov2 research that allowed the pivot to the covid-19 vaccine...i dont think trump is crucified if your conspiracy is right, he comes out even greater imo thwarting this sinister plan...i do think i am as rationale as they come and thanks...covid was crazy, so many unknowns and fears and literally seeing so many die so quickly, right out of a movie....i think more truth couldve been shared and instead of the insanity that was being pushed...i think its a difference in doing the best you can in the situation and outright deceiving...

Where I'll disagree with you is on Trump being crucified. For 3 years they (media, power elites) tried everything to stop him, but nothing worked. Then came Covid. And they loved it. Because Covid was their way of getting him out.

These are some evil people. I know it sounds crazy, but look at our President right now. Would anyone with half a brain want him leading any group, much less be the Leader of America??