You could throw in Andre Sweet's transfer just after the '01 title, Eliot Williams' prior to the '09-'10 season, and Sheed's being kicked out during the '14-'15 season, too!
Short and long term effects of Tucker transfer-
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Transfer's like Tucker will be an on-going problem for K and Duke and I think it's a myriad of factors:
1) While Duke could have used Tucker next year, he also saw that O'Connell was getting PT ahead of him and then two more highly touted 2-3 swing players were coming in next year which was going to potentially limit his PT.
2) As long as K is recruiting this well, whose to say he would not have ridden the bench his entire career here - and that K may well have recruited over his position the next two seasons. This is the challenge of recruiting big talent in a one-and-done era. It's hard to hold onto the talent with the NBA looming; and it's hard to develop kids behind that talent. Especially if you are a short bench coach ...
3) K notoriously has a short bench - more so in the 2000s than in the mid-late 80's to 90's where in some cases 9 players averaged 10 minutes a game. K's not as patient in recent years. That is going to limit PT even if a kid is playing decent.
4) In conjunction with #3, Bill Parcells used to say, "If they don't bite when they are pups, they are probably not going to bite when they get older." That's not actually accurate - countless exceptions. But I think that tends to be the case at Duke. It's rare that a kid gets little or no PT in year 1 then comes on gradually to be a star by the time he's a Sr.
I think one of K's strengths is getting young, upper-echelon talent talent to play well early and he feeds them minutes to get them ready to compete later in the year. But, I also think that is his weakness. He doesn't feed minutes (even 5-10 vs lesser opponents or 2-3 against quality opponents) to young players to get them acclimated to the game nor does he engender confidence a kid will get PT if he stays. So, I think that enhances the transfers, relative to other coaches/schools.
1) While Duke could have used Tucker next year, he also saw that O'Connell was getting PT ahead of him and then two more highly touted 2-3 swing players were coming in next year which was going to potentially limit his PT.
2) As long as K is recruiting this well, whose to say he would not have ridden the bench his entire career here - and that K may well have recruited over his position the next two seasons. This is the challenge of recruiting big talent in a one-and-done era. It's hard to hold onto the talent with the NBA looming; and it's hard to develop kids behind that talent. Especially if you are a short bench coach ...
3) K notoriously has a short bench - more so in the 2000s than in the mid-late 80's to 90's where in some cases 9 players averaged 10 minutes a game. K's not as patient in recent years. That is going to limit PT even if a kid is playing decent.
4) In conjunction with #3, Bill Parcells used to say, "If they don't bite when they are pups, they are probably not going to bite when they get older." That's not actually accurate - countless exceptions. But I think that tends to be the case at Duke. It's rare that a kid gets little or no PT in year 1 then comes on gradually to be a star by the time he's a Sr.
I think one of K's strengths is getting young, upper-echelon talent talent to play well early and he feeds them minutes to get them ready to compete later in the year. But, I also think that is his weakness. He doesn't feed minutes (even 5-10 vs lesser opponents or 2-3 against quality opponents) to young players to get them acclimated to the game nor does he engender confidence a kid will get PT if he stays. So, I think that enhances the transfers, relative to other coaches/schools.
