Schutt questions

[BigG1156]

I remember when Jaden Schutt was being recruited that his body type, speed, shooting ability and passing reminded me of John Scheyer all those years ago. I have seen nothing that makes that comparison less viable.

Is the gap between Scheyer and Schutt ball handling ability? That is the only reason I can think of that would confine Schutt to the bench even when the crying need is outside scoring, especially after the first 13 shots were missed. What am I missing?

Obviously, the Schutt / Scheyer comparision is not original with me:

Breakdown: Duke's newest offer Jaden Schutt is a Jon Scheyer clone

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247sports.com

The idea of playing Schutt more is not original with me either:

Jaden Schutt Could Emerge As A Huge Impact On Duke’s Offense This Season

Schutt’s three point shot could make Scheyer’s offense the 2.0 version.

www.dukebasketballreport.com

 

[christophero]

Jon was a McDonald's All American. Huge recruit. Schutt is a good player, but more of a 50-75 type guy. That's more in O'Connells range. Nothing wrong with that, but may not be an instant impact guy. That said I'd like to see him get some minutes.

 

[Liftee]

Schutt isn't going to rebound, defend, create open shots, or make Lively a better offensive player.

That said, when your team can't run offense, and he will move on offense and make the open shot, and you just lost by 24, it can't hurt to let him play.

 

[kingbluedevil]

Somebody has to make a bucket for us. We held them scoreless for about 4 minutes we just couldn't do it forever

 

[jamsession3]

If you want Schutt to get some burn, I get it. Will Schutt get a win? Be a go to guy? Glue guy? Don't know. Scheyer evolved as he played more and got older. Furthermore, I wouldn't compare his class to these recruits or transfers.

 

[christophero]

Didn't Jon average 12 or 13 a game as a freshman? People forget how good he was.

 

[jamsession3]

Didn't Jon average 12 or 13 a game as a freshman? People forget how good he was.

He was the 6th man on a team with a good mix of players.

 

[pisgah101]

He was the 6th man on a team with a good mix of players.

Jon started his freshmen year went to 6th man as a sophomore

 

[hart2chesson]

Schutt has to get some extra burn, and I am talking in the heart of competitive games! Look at our guard rotation right now:

Roach is in a terrible slump, Proctor shoots 23% from three and is a dribble queen. Blakes has stepped it up, and despite his abysmal performance vs State deserves solid minutes.Grandison has been a disappointment with inconsistency. Whitehead is emerging and should be at the starting 2 guard.

Thus, start Blakes at the one, Whitehead at the two, and let Schutt back up Dariq. Roach should be shut down until he's 100%, and Proctor can back up Blakes. Dang it Jon, shake it up!!! Give your BEST 3 PT SHOOTER A CHANCE!

OFC

 

[BigG1156]

Duke is 220th in fg % and 246th in 3 point fg%., yet Schutt played 0 minutes at BC.

Is his defense that bad?

 

[sheyduke]

Duke is 220th in fg % and 246th in 3 point fg%., yet Schutt played 0 minutes at BC.

Is his defense that bad?

No but he’s simply a shooter at this point and unless he’s dead on , him missing ain’t going to bring that percentage up.

 

[K-oach Q]

What he gives us is space…because he can shoot it.

You can’t help off him and clog up driving lanes or congest things for the bigs…and if you do he will kill you from deep.

He will allow more freedom for the bigs to operate and create more space for guards to penetrate….it will put the defense on their heels…

If you run a lineup with Roach, Schutt, Whitehead, Filip and Ryan or Lively you have four shooters on the floor….that’s really hard to operate against.

And you create driving space for Roach and Whitehead and the kick out game when the defense over helps will be there…

Personally I’d like Filip at the five and I’d run Mitchell at the four….but Scheher isn’t even willing to let it ride for a bit like that.

 

[Liftee]

So let's assume that Schutt is getting outplayed in practice. Does he get PT over the guys who are outplaying him in practice because their practice success isn't translating to the games, or do you play the guys who show they deserve it? I don't know the answer. Maybe you switch it up for a few minutes a game, simply because the guys excelling in practice aren't showing it in the games.

 

[dukesince91]

There was an old saying when I played football. You have practice players - guys that excel only in practice and wilt during games. You have game players that excel under the lights and pressure. Talk to Allen Iverson. You have to play them to find out.

 

[christophero]

My guess is the only way Jon tinkers with the line up more is if we drop a few. But if Schutt can't get in with Roach out, that has to be a little discouraging.

 

[DanTheDukeFan1982]

What’s crazy is I feel like Jon needs to trim the rotation down to 8 once Roach gets healthy. But I also feel like Schutt should be given an opportunity because we desperately need shooting.

When teams zone us, which seems to happen every game and we suck against the zone, I would throw Schutt in then. Let him make something happen against the zone or force the opponent to get out of the zone.

 

[jamsession3]

My guess is the only way Jon tinkers with the line up more is if we drop a few. But if Schutt can't get in with Roach out, that has to be a little discouraging.

The evaluation of talent is different then making pieces fit. Schutt should get some burn, but at the PG? Schutt will get time if Blake and Proctor are the PGs, then that frees up minutes at the SG. The Grandison experiment is not over. He can help in the locker room and minutes of floor leadership. Grandison demonstrated success with a legit Post - Player and other shooters. We only have one in Young and inconsistent shooting.

 

[BOOGIEMAN1914]

i would tinker w/ schutt in the game paired w/ Young...Young creates a alot of help defense on his moves towards the bucket and has shown a craftiness in getting the ball out open guys....this could benefit schutt...at least 2 or 3 opportunities a game

 

[sheyduke]

Roach is out so we will see if Schutt gets some burn . The issue with this team is that with out Young on the floor Duke goes a lot of iso and hero ball. We saw that when BC caught up in the first half .
Grandison is what he is a specialist. I don’t see where he’s provided any leadership in the locker room or on the floor ( all I do see is that he’s been getting minimal minutes ) . If Schutt gets minutes but doesn’t spread the flood or hit shots then what is the next option?

 

[jamsession3]

i would tinker w/ schutt in the game paired w/ Young...Young creates a alot of help defense on his moves towards the bucket and has shown a craftiness in getting the ball out open guys....this could benefit schutt...at least 2 or 3 opportunities a game

Young has steady improved on making that pass when the defense collapse on him. So yes, Schutt should work with Young on the floor.

 

[AlanInNJ]

I agree with those saying that when we are struggling to score, which has seemed to happen a LOT recently, why not run a few plays for a guy we recruited as a three point specialist? I'm not saying give him 25 minutes, but why not a few shots? If he hits 2 of 3, we get a nice lift. If he's 0 for 3, pull him.

The number of wide open 3's we have missed (badly) recently is alarming.

 

[christophero]

Please Jon start Schutt so he can pull him when he's 0-3 so I can stop reading these posts. (I'm kidding); agree he deserves a shot but given our recent history of shooters I won't be holding my breath.

 

[AlanInNJ]

You nailed it Chris. Just hoping perhaps for a Schutt sighting tonight.

 

[Liftee]

Like the second string quarterback, perhaps Schutt is a lot more popular while he isn't playing, than he will be if he plays and misses a couple shots?

 

[1156jack]

In the loss to Clemson, 3 for 20 in 3 Point shooting.

Schutt o minutes of action. Strange.

 

[christophero]

What's stranger is we keep shooting 3s when we clearly suck at them.

 

[The_Only_Blue]

https://www.si.com/college/duke/basketball/duke-basketball-jaden-schutt-lack-minutes

 

[sheyduke]

Don’t know if that article helps Johns reason for him not playing . I mean granted who the opponent was but 9 points , Five rebounds and 1 assist aren’t bad numbers but still it was a lessor opponent.

 

[K-oach Q]

Not sure what to make of it…

1) He says that Schutt has been great in practice. (Well if so…why doesn’t he play any minutes?)

2) He will look at it…(What have you been looking at all season? Now you will evaluate it?)

3) We’ve won games without shooting well…(flawed logic and coaching malpractice.)

Now…If he’s not performing in practice and Scheyer is just talking him up so he doesn’t disparage the player to the media…That I can understand.

So…Who knows really….

 

[christophero]

The other article says we're the worst shooting Duke team in 63 years.

 

[bleediteveryday30]

#Goals

 

[Liftee]

My guess is Scheyer is just talking Schutt up. Why else wouldn't he play him.

 

[christophero]

I think you have to give him a shot. Even 5 minutes. Not everyone is going to be as patient as Blakes. And we need the shooting. Put him in at home. Sub him before Whitehead, it may light a fire under Whitehead.

 

[KDSTONE]

What's stranger is we keep shooting 3s when we clearly suck at them.

Jon is just following the analytics. What are the alternatives? No one can hit mid range anymore and no one has post moves except for Young which will work out great if Young’s defender also has a three inch vertical leap

 

[KDSTONE]

The other article says we're the worst shooting Duke team in 63 years.

Worse than 95? Yikes Hope Jon’s back doesn’t start getting twitchy

 

[christophero]

What analytics? Roach starting every game 1-8? Proctor shooting 20 percent from 3?

 

[KDSTONE]

What analytics? Roach starting every game 1-8? Proctor shooting 20 percent from 3?

The analytics that say they’re bound to go in eventually 😂

 

[christophero]

I got pulled from a few high school games for thinking that way.

 

[BluePhil]

Not sure what to make of it…

1) He says that Schutt has been great in practice. (Well if so…why doesn’t he play any minutes?)

2) He will look at it…(What have you been looking at all season? Now you will evaluate it?)

3) We’ve won games without shooting well…(flawed logic and coaching malpractice.)

Now…If he’s not performing in practice and Scheyer is just talking him up so he doesn’t disparage the player to the media…That I can understand.

So…Who knows really….

I read that article and had the same questions. All his responses just made me doubt his competence even more.

Scheyer made himself look weak and incompetent with those comments. A simple Schutt is developing well in practice compliments Schutt but tells the press he may not be ready for prime time.

Scheyers responses look like a coach that does not know what they are doing.

 

[jeffrey236]

Not sure what to make of it…

1) He says that Schutt has been great in practice. (Well if so…why doesn’t he play any minutes?)

2) He will look at it…(What have you been looking at all season? Now you will evaluate it?)

3) We’ve won games without shooting well…(flawed logic and coaching malpractice.)

Now…If he’s not performing in practice and Scheyer is just talking him up so he doesn’t disparage the player to the media…That I can understand.

So…Who knows really….

Not to mention he says “other guys have been playing well”. Who has, on a consistent basis? Maybe Young and Flip, neither of whom are keeping Schutt on the bench.