I like this! The quicker we can get our fans vaccinated, the quicker we can get the Crazies back into the stands!
Duke to require students to present proof of COVID vaccination
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And here is the slippery slope. At least is very, very simple to fake documentation as proof, for those who desire it. The card as proof is a pathetic attempt at documentation.
Elaborate. You know Covid basically ended our season right because of stupid frat bros on campus who passed it on to one of the players, but please, intelligent one, tell us how this is stupid?
Q, good point and I am with you on the thread. I think the administration is being very proactive in their Covid protocol. We need those CRAZIES too!
Btw of course not only was it a tough year for Duke hoops with Covid-19, but Coach K and family too. I think he would agree with the policy. He's been one of the staunchest high profile individuals in promoting covid protocol from the outset.
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It really is just common sense, like showing ids at voting booths, right?
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There are exceptions. "documented" religious or medical exemptions. I have no idea what documentation you can or need to provide for a religious exemption. A letter from your minister?
So to me this is more like "we'd really like you to get a shot" and I'm not sure how effective that will be. Most of us wanted to get a shot as soon as we could anyhow and others just refuse.
So to me this is more like "we'd really like you to get a shot" and I'm not sure how effective that will be. Most of us wanted to get a shot as soon as we could anyhow and others just refuse.
Colleges already require vaccines (MMR, TDAP, etc) in order to attend. This is common sense and shouldn’t be controversial at all.
You mean colleges require clinically proven, time-tested vaccines, you silly fool 😂. And even then you’re assuming the diseases cited are all similar. 😳
Johnson and Johnson shot may cause blood clots, as many sources are reporting.
www.nytimes.com
As someone that has already been vaccinated, i do find it ridiculous that someone would say, unless you inject this into your body, you can’t come to school here. Sure, you’re probably paying $50k each year, but against your beliefs and/or your hesitations, you have to get this shot or you can’t come on campus.
And yes, there are two other alternatives to JnJ, but if someone was on the fence already, this story doesn’t help. Not to mention the AstraZen debacle happening in Europe.
Bottom line, you shouldn’t impose a mandatory vax on anyone for something of this nature.
Johnson & Johnson Vaccinations Paused After Rare Clotting Cases Emerge (Published 2021)
Federal health officials called for a halt in the use of the company’s coronavirus vaccine while they study serious illnesses that developed in six American women.
As someone that has already been vaccinated, i do find it ridiculous that someone would say, unless you inject this into your body, you can’t come to school here. Sure, you’re probably paying $50k each year, but against your beliefs and/or your hesitations, you have to get this shot or you can’t come on campus.
And yes, there are two other alternatives to JnJ, but if someone was on the fence already, this story doesn’t help. Not to mention the AstraZen debacle happening in Europe.
Bottom line, you shouldn’t impose a mandatory vax on anyone for something of this nature.
As a proud alumnus, I applaud Duke for this measure. If someone doesn't want to get the vaccine, they can go to college elsewhere.
I love you Mark, but i think that’s an absurd take haha. You did everything for 18 years to get accepted to Duke, you got in, enjoyed your first year or two, but don’t get a vaccine, so you can’t come back.
Not even remotely. Or is it like blood clots versus infarctions? 😂You’re clinically inept but I’ll gladly hammer you on this if you’d like 😀
ps how many of you saw the EUA JJ vaccine notice who are now more nervous? Could be the tip of an iceberg, as we don’t even have 8 months data on these things yet and some are blindly being jabbed. I’m pro-vaccination.....for vaccines that have moderate- to long-term data. We are nowhere close to anything near that with THESE covid vaccines. The previous covid vaccine attempts for the 6 prior strains failed miserably, over longer periods of time too.
every person needs to make the best decision for them, but just don’t try to 1) force others or b) get pissed when you start to hear “I told you so” more and more over time.
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Back at ya, @timo0402 .
Regardless, I suspect most, if not all, of Duke's peer institutions are going to take a similar approach with respect to the vaccine. Hell, I bet most private universities will do the same. I also imagine some kind of remote learning alternative will be offered to the students presently enrolled at Duke who do not want to get the vaccine so that they can finish their education.
I've been fully vaccinated since the end of January. The only side effect I had was not being worried about hopping on an airplane to take a much-needed vacation with my wife.
Johnson and Johnson shot may cause blood clots, as many sources are reporting.
Johnson & Johnson Vaccinations Paused After Rare Clotting Cases Emerge (Published 2021)
Federal health officials called for a halt in the use of the company’s coronavirus vaccine while they study serious illnesses that developed in six American women.
As someone that has already been vaccinated, i do find it ridiculous that someone would say, unless you inject this into your body, you can’t come to school here. Sure, you’re probably paying $50k each year, but against your beliefs and/or your hesitations, you have to get this shot or you can’t come on campus.
And yes, there are two other alternatives to JnJ, but if someone was on the fence already, this story doesn’t help. Not to mention the AstraZen debacle happening in Europe.
Bottom line, you shouldn’t impose a mandatory vax on anyone for something of this nature.
Exactly
Exactly. College is a privilege, not a right. You are not entitled to go to Duke, you have to earn it, which includes complying with certain requirements. For reasons I still cannot fathom, there are a few people here who don't think that there really is a pandemic or who think the effects of getting the virus are overblown. The fact that other countries have gone into lock down to get a handle on this means what? They are all overreacting? The bottom line is in places where 50% of the pop or more have been vaccinated, they are now winning the fight against the pandemic so requiring the vaccine seems like a reasonable action to keep Duke students safe. As for side effects of JandJ and AstraZeneca, this is where there is overreaction. The numbers of people who suffered from blood clots is infinitesimal given the number of people who have had those injections without blood clot side effects. Fourteen44, I would think you of all people would be pointing that out. There is no vaccine in the world that is not without a risk of side effects. They are considered acceptable risks to keep infectious diseases at bay.
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College is a privilege, not a right... hmm. I take it we're on the same page when it comes to student loan forgiveness and tax payers funded "free college". That's great.
I am pretty sure we are not but as that would amount to hijacking this thread, why don't we leave it at that.
just give it more time - the s/e list will get longer and more nasty. This is not some sort of conspiracy “injectable tracer” or “population control”, but it’s big medicine and gov taking advantage ($$$) of a man-made virus. It’s done (and started with the great reset) it’s intended purposes now, so cap it all off with these big boys getting paid, nicely (including Fauci and the NIH). Ironic part is many of those rushing to get vaccinated are the same ones who scream and cry about wealth inequality and greed in America, dreaming of socialist utopia all while they’re contributing to the aforementioned profits 😂. They can’t think that far ahead though because like both sides they need their political party to tell them how to feel.
A healthy athlete like Jayson Tatum has to use an inhaler BEFORE games because of COVID. Never had to BEFORE COVID, but now he has to and we think all young, healthy people will be immune from this? There is obviously no rhyme or reason to COVID. It’s killed millions all over the world. Why in the hell is there ANY objections to something that will prevent millions more from dying is astonishing.
Believe what you want to believe but you can’t get mad when institutions and businesses don’t want you around them, either, because you could be potentially killing their customers or in this case students.
Believe what you want to believe but you can’t get mad when institutions and businesses don’t want you around them, either, because you could be potentially killing their customers or in this case students.
On point again Q, and good info on Tatum!!! Appreciate the info about him and his own particular Covid protocol.
Your points are well made about Covid in general. Some sort of precautions obviously must be made per the massive death toll. I am so happy I was vaccinated, but obviously (especially as a senior),still practicing some protocol like wearing mask indoors on errands, public indoor gatherings so forth.
Although there are no long term studies, the # of subjects, multiple countries with separate studies has provided huge data sets that would normally take years, if ever to get before a vaccine gets approved.
Also, let's not discount the long Term effects of Covid already observed in very high #s not to mention the long term effects of Covid not yet seen.
Also, let's not discount the long Term effects of Covid already observed in very high #s not to mention the long term effects of Covid not yet seen.
Hahaha. Please don’t let your feelings get in the way of facts.
You do realize it’s a director of CNN doing the talking, right, or did y’all not even watch?
You do realize it’s a director of CNN doing the talking, right, or did y’all not even watch?
There are a number of schools that are doing what Duke is doing and their lawyers believe they are on firm legal footing.
Not to parse too fine here but the students are not being forced to get the injection. They do have a choice. But if they choose not to take the drug then the schools are telling them they do not meet the school's requirements.
That's exactly what makes it illegal. The vaccine has to be fda approved before any requirement can be made on it. My employer put out the same nonsense, until the Union started threatening lawsuits.
I guess we will both wait and see but the union threatening law suits does not necessarily mean the union is correct and the labor laws and union contracts place union employees in different categories from students.
