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I'm certainly not going to buy into a 5 for 5 platoon- however if you're suggesting the big man rotation, than yes.No Jah but wow depth.
Marshall is the ultimate team guy and he will do all of the little things. His motor, work ethic and attitude is awesome for the young guys and he is an example of what hard work can do in the weight room. Remember he was a 7-0 skinny kid coming out of HS. He will defend, rebound and communicate. Just a team guy.
Amile is a glue guy. He just gets it done. Timely rebounds, touch D like in the Natl Champ game, can score points and is such a positve leader. Curious to see how his off-season development translates into his Sr year. If he just slightly improves he will have a very good Sr year.
Obi is the X factor guy. He is a very good rebounder and defensive player. One NBAer went as far as saying he was one of the toughest guys to score against that he haas ever played against. Key word is "Ever". No one really knows what to expect from him this year but we all know he is big, extremely strong and a rebounding machine.
Jeter is the future. Talented, athletic, skilled and just lacks experience.
Just great depth for K to work with. I know people don't want to buy into it but we all might see platooning early on. The last time the bigs were this deep (Zoubs, Lance, mason and miles) that team was very successful.
I think the key for Chase is his offense. Assuming at least one of Marshall and Amile are on the court most of the time, it's hard to see K putting Chase in the game if he can't score. That would put two non-shooters in the lineup which isn't something K likes to do. On the other hand, if Chase can knock in some jumpers from 10-15 feet out (something Amile just hasn't developed the confidence/skill to do), that really gives us great lineup flexibility.
Yeah, because that's a dumb comparison, given we had no good scoring options at the 4 that year. We did last year with Justice and will this year with Ingram.Yeah because Lance and Zoubs were offensive juggarnauts.....and Amile can score when called to do so.
Correct, Crank's obsession with this lobster guy's potentially being a UK fan blind the fact that he's not making horrible points all the time. Ingram will almost certainly spend some time at the 4 this year- especially in late game situations when we need scoring/FTs. It is also a matchup nightmare for the other team...think we had that this year if i'm not mistaken. It also is a load to deal with if you have Thornton, Allen, Matty/luke, and Ingram at the floor on the same time with whichever big you want to compliment that 4 with. If this year taught you anything it's that other teams have to match up to us just as much as we to them.For years, we've put tweeners at the 4 spot. And we always say the same thing, "we'll get killed on the boards". That may be true, but for certain stretches of the season, K has proven he's willing to ride it out for experimentation scouting report purposes.
Correct, Crank's obsession with this lobster guy's potentially being a UK fan blind the fact that he's not making horrible points all the time. Ingram will almost certainly spend some time at the 4 this year- especially in late game situations when we need scoring/FTs. It is also a matchup nightmare for the other team...think we had that this year if i'm not mistaken. It also is a load to deal with if you have Thornton, Allen, Matty/luke, and Ingram at the floor on the same time with whichever big you want to compliment that 4 with. If this year taught you anything it's that other teams have to match up to us just as much as we to them.
My obsession? No, just obvious statements and posts both here, and on other boards. Maybe you shouldn't ignore the fact that if Ingram is at the 4, chances are, Amile will be at the 5. How did we fare with Jabari at the 4 and Amile at the 5 full-time. Perhaps a little less concern for my mockery of Lobsters and a little more paying attention to my post would help you? It is funny watching you basically agree with my point above (where I said Ingram will spend some time at the 4) in the same post, however Also, this past year you had Jah or MP3 on the court anchoring the post (with the exception of spot minutes including the title game w/ Wisky) to soften the smaller 4 spot. Do that with AJ a majority of the time, you ask for trouble, so your comparison there goes out the window.
DH, what exactly do you consider a "tweener" at the 4? Thomas? Kelly? Mason/Miles? Singler? All much more capable of banging at the post, and all surrounded with more beef than say Amile in the paint, with the exception of Singler in 09 when he was paired with Lance and consistently exposed (and abused in some cases, see Villanova). If MP3 or Chase (perhaps Obi in spells) stays at the 5, some of this may be pointless to discuss, but if that is the case, then we have AJ off-of-the-court, something that I have a hard time believing K will do. Also, you basically agree with me stating that "for stretches of the season" is comparative/similar to my statement of moments of Brandon being at the 4 and AJ at the 5. Problem, again, is that if it becomes a majority situation, Duke will get worked on the boards, just like in years past with similar scenarios.
Right i'm not sure how much he'll be at the 4, we both just know it'll happen. I guess my whole thing is i'm not as concerned about it as you are, that pretty much narrows it down to the nitty gritty. Obviously we agree more than not in the majority of these posts. K has moved Amile to the bench to slide a smaller player to the 4 just this season, I could see it happening again b/c Amile is a do wahtever it takes for the team kind of guy.Again, I don't follow the clown around "all day" like you claim I do, but perhaps I should use your logic and say you post here "all day" based on your counts and activity? I do read RR and THR so I come across things, and it isn't very shocking to have opponents posing as Duke fans.
For your first paragraph - you essentially state things that I already said for the exception of comparing AJ as a sophomore vs senior. Yes, he did well on Frank in both games towards the end, but if Duke runs with that as much as k did with Winslow mid-season and on, then yes, Duke will get exposed IMO. A senior AJ is still very lean, and unless the other 3 get on the floor, bigger teams will simply out-muscle those two on the boards. So k places an anchor there, what happens to Amile? Do any of the other 3 demand play the way that Jah did?
As for Chase - of course he will need to be superior offensively to see big minutes, but where the UK fan is wrong is that Chase will need to score from 10-15 feet. He won't, and if you've seen Chase play, he has by far the best footwork and post scoring touch out of any of the bigs this year. If he is impactful, it'll most likely be in the paint.
Not exactly sure where the disconnect is - I know that Ingram will be at the 4 some. I just doubt it'll be as much as you are predicting.
I think it could be a fair amount of the season because of things like injuries, fatigue, etc. not to mention the scouting report game that coaches play where for most if the season, you play one way with a certain lineup, then all of a sudden here a comes a change that maximizes your team's potential. K has even able to do that with his most successful teams. The teams where he couldn't, we'll the results are obvious.
And you ask what tweeners to which I'm referring? At the 4? With success?
Winslow
Parker
Kelly
Jefferson
Deng
Singler
Dunleavy
Laettner
Ferry
G. Hill (played everywhere)
Alarie
K has made a legacy out of these guys, so your convenient amnesia won't fly here.
Amile lost big minutes as a team captain down the stretch. And if Ingram and a center proves more valuable, the same will happen this season too. And Amile is the kind of captain who will be the first to tell K to make the move.
Right i'm not sure how much he'll be at the 4, we both just know it'll happen. I guess my whole thing is i'm not as concerned about it as you are, that pretty much narrows it down to the nitty gritty. Obviously we agree more than not in the majority of these posts. K has moved Amile to the bench to slide a smaller player to the 4 just this season, I could see it happening again b/c Amile is a do wahtever it takes for the team kind of guy.
As for Chase- he doesnt need to hit the 10-15 foot jumper to be effective. He just needs to be an effective offensive player when he's out there, because if not he's just not goign to see the floor. I think he'll have his moments, but overall I think he's a year away from being a consistent inside presence for us.
Selective amnesia? I looked back through 2009; wasn't clear that we should look at your selected range of years. Now that we are:
Winslow - with Jah (already mentioned)
Parker - with AJ (worked well statistically for Parker, not for the team)
Kelly - with Mason (superior 5)
Jefferson - with Jah and Mason
Deng - with Shelden (superior 5)
Singler - with Miles/Zoub/Mason but exposed when with Lance
Dunleavy - with Boozer (superior 5)
Laettner - really? Are you really comparing any of these guys to Christian?
Ferry - various combos
G. Hill (played everywhere) - you answered that
Please tell me, who from this upcoming team, will supplant AJ in your system and do it at the same 5's listed above. Based on your post, we should expect Chase/Obi/MP3 to perform at similar levels to Jah, Zoubs, Mason, Miles, Boozer, Shelden, etc. Makes sense.