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For real. We should all sit around a fire, holding hands. Not allowed to think nothing but lofty aspirations. Anything less, and they start screaming "Citizens Arrest!"
Words like asinine, whining bitches, pussies. And our board brags about how we are as compared to Heel fans and Kentucky fans.
Looks to me like the 3 different shades of blue are close to the same.
I would be glad to go into detail telling how I feel we should've played. First, I'll look at the strengths of each player offensively
*Trevon- penetrate and dish
*Grayson- spot up shooter who can put the ball on the floor on closeouts
*Gary- spot up shooter
*Marvin- post scorer and elite rebounder
*Wendell- post scorer, elite rebounder and reliable jump shooter
Now, we all knew coming into the season the most important person on the team would be Trevon. It's him because he's the point guard and we know we had two bigs that needed to get the ball along with two really good spot up shooters. How do you utilize a lineup like that? Have the shooters at the three point line and play a pick and role game. You can send Carter or Bagley to set the pick because both would be deadly rolling to the goal. While the other would be baseline. Both were pretty good mid range jump shooters and would crash the boards. Trevon is at his best attacking. He doesn't attack to score though. He attack to get his teammates involved which is exactly what we needed. Pick-and-roll should have been our main set this entire year. That would've helped Grayson and Gary even more. Having Trevon playing the way he played this year limited his skills and effect on the game. Trevon was the one person on offense that had a clear weakness, but his strength was better than the strengths of majority of the other players. By us running an offense that had him mostly standing on the perimeter, it didn't showcase our full potential as an offense. Grayson would've been a better shooter had we ran more pick-and-rolls for Trevon because he's an unselfish player and would've found Grayson. Grayson was at his best when his feet was already set. Letting him handle the ball was the worst thing for him. The defense was able to really key in on him and he lack the ball handling skills and quickness to beat a player off the dribble. Running the PNR also would've made it easier to get Bagley and Carter the ball in favorable spots. We didn't even run the side PNR against Kansas when Bagley would slip it and post up. That's Coach K's fault.
Defensively, we could have been more effective in man to man if we changed our style. Koach wanted to pressure the ball, but we played two bigs. Playing that style puts a lot of pressure on bigs because everybody (except us) spread the floor and ran a lot of pick and rolls. Marvin Bagley's defensive IQ was terrible which is not surprising. I'm sure he grew up playing the middle of the zone and was never taught defensive principles. He gets to college and has to learn rotations. That's not an easy thing to learn especially for a big that's used to playing close to the basket defensively. Wendell is a pretty good defender, but with us pressuring the ball and him having to cover 35 feet away from the basket against a guard was a challenge. Marques was much better at working the pick and roll because he attacked the ball handler (hard hedge). Grayson was our worse perimeter defender but if we packed the defense in he wouldn't have been a negative defensively. Our guards shouldn't have been extended out any further than 2 feet above the 3-point line. That would've made it easier on the big man. Guarding the pick and roll at 25 feet is much different than at 35 feet. The zone was a good move, but it's hard to win a championship playing zone. One good passing team that's making shots and you're gone.
The reason I give Grayson the most blame is because he's the leader and veteran. He didn't play well this year. We just needed him to be a 40% 3-pt shooter and we would've won the championship. Carter and Bagley should've let the team in shot attempts as well. Coach K gets the most blame because he didn't play the most important guy on the floor to his strength. When you have NBA skilled players, you need to run an NBA style offense. Having an athletic, pass first point guard who can't shoot just passing the ball around and standing on the perimeter does the offense a disservice. Rondo isn't the best player or best scorer on the Pelicans but you see who has the ball in his hands majority of the game attacking defenses and creating for his teammates. That could've been Trevon and that would've unlocked every player on the team's strengths
Duke fans are lot like Kentucky fans next man is always better lol
First off, I didn't start the thread. Second, yes I think the team will get to sweet 16. The folks that think the team won't go as far as we want are being called downers. Then a mod came in and calls that thinking "asinine," yet a few others say they expect either a final four or a title, that's not considered anything but optimism.Jesus. Seriously dude? Ain't nobody here asking you to hold hands. Its is funny how you guys cry you wanna be able so say what you want , but the optimistic guys can't. It's kind of a two way street ain't it. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cloud up you guys party. I enjoy your sophisticated threads that start with how we'll be bad but you always slip that, "but we could be really great" in there. It's neat. Cover all the bases so to speak.
The whole saddle up comment was in fun, I'm sorry it burnt you and Harts ass hairs. I'll delete it. I 'm not pissing down my leg Hoss, but yes , I am excited about the incoming team. You seem fairly well intent on arguing about every Gd thing that pops up on this board so i'll just leave you alone from here on.
The whole saddle up comment was in fun, I'm sorry it burnt you and Harts ass hairs. I'll delete it. I 'm not pissing down my leg Hoss, but yes , I am excited about the incoming team. You seem fairly well intent on arguing about every Gd thing that pops up on this board so i'll just leave you alone from here on.
No, I'm learning only optimism is allowed. Why's it ok for you to go on a rant, cursing and all, then take offense when someone gets a little pissed at that.
This board is getting worse, and it all stems from the one and done debate, either you take all you can get or you are anti one and done
Ok lets see. you said only optimism is allowed. Ok, that's stupid. Either you're kidding, or you're stupid.I'll let you call it. you seem upset about a lil joking curse word I typed. I apologized, and deleted it, but , as normal, you'd like to argue about it. You say the board is getting worse, I agree and a couple of you are the reason. What are we arguing about next?
Expecting bad but hoping for great isn't covering the bases it's being a realistic based on our current strategies success. And show you obviously do care or you wouldn't of even posted in this thread. And he's not arguing over everything he's stating his point and defending it while being attacked over something a lot of us believe
So, where do you stand Pisgah? You're fairly unclear, other than comments on what everyone else says. Stand up a little damn.
I didn’t even start to read it.Thanks for the book report. Do you think anyone is actually going to read your entire post??
I didn’t even start to read it.
Thanks for the book report. Do you think anyone is actually going to read your entire post??
I didn’t even start to read it.
Paraphrased version (I know nothing but type a lot to seem smart)
I know you like following my posts but he asked me to go in detail. Going in detail meant I had to explain it to him. You aren’t capable of having a real basketball discussion. You might learn something though.
Stop this ridiculous bs. We both want Duke to do good. I just don't think we will contend, but I want to be wrong.Ok lets see. you said only optimism is allowed. Ok, that's stupid. Either you're kidding, or you're stupid.I'll let you call it. you seem upset about a lil joking curse word I typed. I apologized, and deleted it, but , as normal, you'd like to argue about it. You say the board is getting worse, I agree and a couple of you are the reason. What are we arguing about next?
How is that stupid? Please tell us
No it's not. The folks that said we weren't going to contend were told that view was asinine, yet the folks predicting final four or better weren't. What does that say?Ok.He said only optimism is allowed here. That is false. What’s your next question?
Mac, you seem a little butt hurt that a Mod got on you a little bit. Chill out man. Everything is gonna be ok, and if you’re a real fan, I promise you’ll enjoy the coming season.
No Show, I could care less what a mod thinks of me, so butt hurt I am not. It's the principle that one side can have high expectations yet the others shouldn't lower those expectations.Mac, you seem a little butt hurt that a Mod got on you a little bit. Chill out man. Everything is gonna be ok, and if you’re a real fan, I promise you’ll enjoy the coming season.
Friends like you and Sky, is that ok?Are you and Mac an item now?