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Alabama's Brandon Miller

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I don't know Alabama law but sounds like he should at least be charged as an accessory for bringing the gun which was used to kill a young lady. What area you guys/gals thoughts on this?

www.al.com

Mother, 23, killed on Strip in Tuscaloosa was ‘beautiful young woman who loved her family’

Jamea Jonae Harris, 23, was killed early Sunday. “She was a beautiful young woman who loved her family and most of all her 5-year-old son Kaine,’’ DeCarla Cotton told AL.com. “She was just trying to enjoy her weekend with her cousin that attends the University of Alabama and her boyfriend.”
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I agree. What did he think was going to happen when he brought someone a loaded weapon? The coach and AD should be fired for not, at the very least, suspending him. But they want to win and that is all they care about apparently. If this had been a bench warmer, he would not be on the team. This is gross. Im all about the second amendment but this is terrible.
 
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springsportster said:
I agree. What did he think was going to happen when he brought someone a loaded weapon? The coach and AD should be fired for not, at the very least, suspending him. But they want to win and that is all they care about apparently. If this had been a bench warmer, he would not be on the team. This is gross. Im all about the second amendment but this is a case of gross negligence at least. It's no different than bringing a drunk friend a car and saying "Keys are in the ignition" and then the kid kills someone while drunk driving.
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Agree and for Oats to say "wrong spot at the wrong time" is a lame ass excuse.
 
Sad thing is that kid may win player of the year lol. This really is up there though in terms of high profile players who got off scott free. And to cap it off (no pun intended) he will be a top 5 pick and make millions. Real nice message to send to kids coach Oats. It's pretty clear what kind of kids he recruits too.

And I just read Nate Oats apparently called Ray Lewis for advice on this whole thing 😂 . That's like a calling Keith Richards and asking him advice on how to quit smoking lol
 
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I got to ask , What can he be charged with? I mean all he has to say is he was returning the guys property as asked via text . That doesn’t show he knew he intended to shoot it . I mean yeah, it was a stupid position in which he could of said heck no you come get it . But can’t be accessory , he doesn’t show via text about him knowing he was going to shoot up the car . Even if he did know there’s nothing showing it ! They got the two that did it so in my opinion it’s a mute point .
 
Crazy rumor going around for tonight's cheater u - ND game . Bojangles is upgrading their free sausage biscuit for scoring 100 points to a free country ham biscuit with double ham. Word is that Sean May gave an inspiring speech on the plane sitting on the tarmac as the plane was getting ready for take off and it was so loud people inside RDU thought the plane was in distress. OFC
 
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He returned a loaded gun to the guy? He wasn't returning an I Pod. You would want this guy suiting up for your team?
 
christophero said:
He returned a loaded gun to the guy? He wasn't returning an I Pod. You would want this guy suiting up for your team?
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Look at your first statement ! “ he returned a loaded gun to the guy!” What was he supposed to do . Unload the bullets for him and say hey it’s in the hat but I took your bullets threw them away . It was the dudes gun not his . This a mute point legally and yes the victims parents will probably attempt to sue him civilly after the trail but that is it . Y’all read way to much into certain situations
 
kingbluedevil said:
Brandon probably borrowed the gun to go rabbit hunting.
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Pretty sure he didn’t have a license or gun permit to even temp possess a firearm. He shouldn’t have been playing last night. I know you said it in jest but if he can get close enough to a rabbit to shoot it with a handgun he has a future as a military sniper if the NBA doesn’t work out If this situation had unfolded at Duke I’d be horrified if he was still playing A player was suspended for 11 games this year at FSU for having his plane tix paid for
 
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Nothing in this story surprises me. Nothing, from the incident where young men are stupidly getting involved with guns, to Miller thinking that he doesn't have to make good decisions about what he's doing at 1 in the morning, to the school and coach sweeping the whole thing under the rug.

College sports are broken. I wish I didn't love it so much.
 
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Look at your first statement ! “ he returned a loaded gun to the guy!” What was he supposed to do . Unload the bullets for him and say hey it’s in the hat but I took your bullets threw them away . It was the dudes gun not his . This a mute point legally and yes the victims parents will probably attempt to sue him civilly after the trail but that is it . Y’all read way to much into certain situations
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The fact of the matter is that, regardless of who was the owner of the gun, Miller did possess the gun for some period of time. My guess is that he was unlicensed and underage. Not the kind of kid you should want in your program. The fact that the cops may have been unable to pin something on him does not mean that he did not do anything wrong. We need to know more of the circumstances around how and why he came into possession of the gun in the first place. Btw, Shey you talk as if you know a lot about the law. Are you an attorney? From your pronouncements as to what is or is not legal, I am guessing that you are not. OFC
 
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Liftee said:
Nothing in this story surprises me. Nothing, from the incident where young men are stupidly getting involved with guns, to Miller thinking that he doesn't have to make good decisions about what he's doing at 1 in the morning, to the school and coach sweeping the whole thing under the rug.

College sports are broken. I wish I didn't love it so much.
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A lot of these guys’ heads are filled with poison from an early age. From all directions. Because of a relative few incidents in a nation of three hundred mil people they’re taught to not respect authority and everyone’s out to get them; the irony is they’re much more likely to be killed by another member of their own race than some random White dude I’ll save the rest for the Lounge before I run afoul of the mods
 
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I’m staunch 2-A, and idiots like this ruin it for everyone (and lead to innocent lives being taken). He needs to be suspended until there is a review by both the school and legal direction.
 
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Fourteen44 said:
I’m staunch 2-A, and idiots like this ruin it for everyone (and lead to innocent lives being taken). He needs to be suspended until there is a review by both the school and legal direction.
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Agree. Y’all remember back in the 90s when FSU was criticized for only suspending its two players only a game or two for being given free shoes from Foot Locker. They were called Free Shoes University by Spurrier. Now we’re here
 
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It doesn’t LOOK good. But I don’t know all the facts and quite frankly, I don’t think any of us do. Let the police and attorneys do their jobs. The truth will come out and we will know if letting him play was the right decision or not. I don’t THINK it was the right decision either, but that is with information that is available to me via the media and assuming it is completely accurate.
 
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Liftee said:
I thought about last year also. Much different and much less tragic, but questionable judgment used (again, at a lower and somewhat more understandable level).

If this was a UNX player, we never would have heard about it at all.
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Yes we would have lol. This is pretty friggin’ serious….
 
christophero said:
Saying it doezn't look good is an understatement. He brought a loaded gun to someone who killed someone.
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Just a hypothetical Chris.

You and me go out in YOUR car. I decide to go to a club, you decide you rather not, and go somewhere else, maybe to get something to eat. I leave my legally owned gun in your car. At some point later in the night, you start driving back to pick me up. While you are driving, you get a text from me to bring your joint (gun). You are already driving, maybe you saw the text or maybe not.

You arrive where I am. I come to your car, go into your car and get my gun from under the clothes in the back where I put it. I leave you in the car.

I go shoot someone. YOU never touched the gun.

Thoughts on that scenario?
 
Devilinside said:
The fact of the matter is that, regardless of who was the owner of the gun, Miller did possess the gun for some period of time. My guess is that he was unlicensed and underage. Not the kind of kid you should want in your program. The fact that the cops may have been unable to pin something on him does not mean that he did not do anything wrong. We need to know more of the circumstances around how and why he came into possession of the gun in the first place. Btw, Shey you talk as if you know a lot about the law. Are you an attorney? From your pronouncements as to what is or is not legal, I am guessing that you are not. OFC
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I was a narcotics, K9 and Juvenile officer for over 12 years .
I know the ends and outs how cases play out in court both state and federal . Just saying .
 
KDSTONE said:
Pretty sure he didn’t have a license or gun permit to even temp possess a firearm. He shouldn’t have been playing last night. I know you said it in jest but if he can get close enough to a rabbit to shoot it with a handgun he has a future as a military sniper if the NBA doesn’t work out If this situation had unfolded at Duke I’d be horrified if he was still playing A player was suspended for 11 games this year at FSU for having his plane tix paid for
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I don't believe you need a license to own or possess a hand gun in Alabama.
 
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Devilinside said:
The fact of the matter is that, regardless of who was the owner of the gun, Miller did possess the gun for some period of time. My guess is that he was unlicensed and underage. Not the kind of kid you should want in your program. The fact that the cops may have been unable to pin something on him does not mean that he did not do anything wrong. We need to know more of the circumstances around how and why he came into possession of the gun in the first place. Btw, Shey you talk as if you know a lot about the law. Are you an attorney? From your pronouncements as to what is or is not legal, I am guessing that you are not. OFC
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Duke Mu's hypothetical below is dead on with the facts as the prosecutors understood them. Under those facts, and given that in Alabama it is easy to get a gun, hard to see what crime he committed. And quite frankly when assessing whether someone merits staying in a program, it probably should not be based on a guess. Here, your guess is incorrect. Miller is over 18, which is the age at which someone can legally own a gun in that state and was not required to obtain a license.
 
Duke Blu said:
Just a hypothetical Chris.

You and me go out in YOUR car. I decide to go to a club, you decide you rather not, and go somewhere else, maybe to get something to eat. I leave my legally owned gun in your car. At some point later in the night, you start driving back to pick me up. While you are driving, you get a text from me to bring your joint (gun). You are already driving, maybe you saw the text or maybe not.

You arrive where I am. I come to your car, go into your car and get my gun from under the clothes in the back where I put it. I leave you in the car.

I go shoot someone. YOU never touched the gun.

Thoughts on that scenario?
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I probably wouldn't hang out with someone who would leave a loaded gun in my car. Was the player's friend's gun legally owned? I'm not a big fan of carrying guns around. I'd prefer guns were kept in homes for protection or hunting, but I try not to get political in here.
 
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christophero said:
I probably wouldn't hang out with someone who would leave a loaded gun in my car. Was the player's friend's gun legally owned? I'm not a big fan of carrying guns around. I'd prefer guns were kept in homes for protection or hunting, but I try not to get political in here.
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My understanding (again accuracy of information) was that the friends gun was legally owned. In that scenario as laid out, which is one of the stories thats out there, it may not be an easy decision to sit him. You could be sitting him for no other reason than how it looks. Not sure that is wise, as opposed to dealing with the known facts.
 
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I hear you, but someone was killed, so maybe sitting the person a few games doesn't sound so extreme.
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Or maybe with NIL it isn’t that easy . Have we ever thought that they sit him, he looses NIL money due to it or at worse kick him off the team with no legal charges and he decides to sue for damages ? How’s that look for their recruiting? Let’s not act like Miller didn’t have legal service the minute his name popped up especially with him being a high draft pick.
Also how long do you sit him for his choice of returning a gun to the owner ? I get it some of you think he should have said NO. But at the end of the day he’s still a kid . It wasn’t his personal gun he carried to him. It was the player who was involved. Sit the kid he can just pull out of school and prepare for the draft . Like noted I’m sure the girls family will attempt a civil suite against him .
 
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