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GhostOf301
Dattier said:
He's definitely more knowledgable on tariffs and economy than I am. He's also more patient and willing to put up with crap than I am.

You're not actually contributing anything to the conversation. Th0r is basically giving you a master class while you sit there slackjawed, occasionally sniping at him because he makes you feel inferior.
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You're still here? Run along.
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Dattier
GhostOf301 said:
You're not relevant. We are discussing disagreements with a level headed and non condescending, douche, who is far more intelligent than you.

Wish you well.
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He's definitely more knowledgable on tariffs and economy than I am. He's also more patient and willing to put up with crap than I am.

You're not actually contributing anything to the conversation. Th0r is basically giving you a master class while you sit there slackjawed, occasionally sniping at him because he makes you feel inferior.
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Dattier
KDSTONE said:
Amaze-balls. Some of the sh- you post reminds me of that scene in Mean Girls when Regina George tells the girl from Party of 5: “ Quit trying to make Fetch happen. It’s not gonna happen”.
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You know, you can just respond once to the same post. It makes it seem less like you were stewing over what I said, then came back for another retort.
Yeah, I used that word in the sentence where I was mocking @Mac9192 . Glad you caught the deliberate idiocy, even if you didn't get the context. Mean Girls? Is that a tv show?
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K
Th0r said:
Just to expand on what I said earlier—one of my more specific concerns is how these tariffs are affecting small businesses. Electronics like phones and computers might be exempt for now, but most of the products small retailers depend on—tools, packaging, textiles—aren’t.

In towns like mine, where the cost of living is high and the economy relies heavily on tourism, that hits hard. A lot of our local shops, like others across the country, source their inventory from China. Now we’re seeing a real slowdown in international bookings, and people are starting to worry. Stricter visa policies, rising tariffs, and global tensions are all playing a role.

This isn’t some distant policy debate—it’s showing up right here in everyday life. That’s why I’ve been speaking so directly about this. These are small, seasonal businesses with tight margins. They can’t absorb a sudden 50% spike in costs. And those are the jobs I’m most concerned about in the short term.
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This article seems to cover the concerns of many small businesses very well. Kudos to Fox Business for covering it, but I doubt Hannity or Gutfeld will discuss it anytime soon.

Trump tariffs weighing on small business owners | Fox Business

Small businesses are worried about their survival as President Donald Trump's tariffs on China escalate, with U.S. duties on Beijing now totaling 145%.
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Th0r
Just to expand on what I said earlier—one of my more specific concerns is how these tariffs are affecting small businesses. Electronics like phones and computers might be exempt for now, but most of the products small retailers depend on—tools, packaging, textiles—aren’t.

In towns like mine, where the cost of living is high and the economy relies heavily on tourism, that hits hard. A lot of our local shops, like others across the country, source their inventory from China. Now we’re seeing a real slowdown in international bookings, and people are starting to worry. Stricter visa policies, rising tariffs, and global tensions are all playing a role.

This isn’t some distant policy debate—it’s showing up right here in everyday life. That’s why I’ve been speaking so directly about this. These are small, seasonal businesses with tight margins. They can’t absorb a sudden 50% spike in costs. And those are the jobs I’m most concerned about in the short term.
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Th0r
KDSTONE said:
Tightened immigration will prevent mass layoffs is one theory.

Trump tariffs to increase unemployment, but mass layoffs unlikely | Fox Business

Economists at Allianz forecast Trump's tariffs could negatively impact the U.S. economy, increase unemployment, cause higher inflation, and decrease exports due to retaliation.
www.foxbusiness.com
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The theory that tight immigration and labor shortages could help delay layoffs makes sense to me, especially in the short term. I agree it’s possible that employers might hold onto workers longer than usual given how hard it’s been to fill positions in recent years.

Out of curiosity, I looked up the rest of Allianz’s forecast. They’re projecting just 0.8% GDP growth for the U.S. this year, with a mild recession stretching from Q1 through Q3, driven by policy disruptions and tariff escalation. That lines up with what you’d expect when rising costs and uncertainty start weighing down the economy—and honestly, I’ve kind of figured Q3 would be when the crap hits the fan anyway.

I genuinely hope Allianz is right and we avoid a wave of job losses. But with inflation already up and growth slowing, unemployment is the last missing piece. If that starts to move, we’re not talking about risk—we’re living stagflation. At this point, the pieces are on the board. It’s just a matter of when and where they fall.
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KDSTONE said:
Amaze-balls. Some of the sh- you post reminds me of that scene in Mean Girls when Regina George tells the girl from Party of 5: “ Quit trying to make Fetch happen. It’s not gonna happen”.
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Ol @Dattier whines about how he’s treated here, then comes back to post more of his usual garbage.

He’s like the kid that runs his mouth, and gets his ass kicked. The guy stops, but he decides to run his mouth again, which then the guy goes back to pummeling him some more.
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GhostOf301
Dattier said:
"It seems you already have your conclusions," says the guy who has nothing to offer but memes p3ning libs.
Faced with solid analysis from someone you have no established knowledge of to base a personal attack on, you hem and haw and resort to "wuh-wuh-wuh-well, if you could do better, why aren't YOU President?"

This @Th0r dude couldn't have shown up at a better time... OH, but even THAT is part of your coloring playbook... see next post...
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You're not relevant. We are discussing disagreements with a level headed and non condescending, douche, who is far more intelligent than you.

Wish you well.
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K
Th0r said:
I get what you’re saying.

I just don’t see the current strategy as ultimately being successful. Though I don’t know everything, the rollout and method look too deeply flawed to produce real results. Most Americans have no idea what’s coming down the pipe—this strategy is a time bomb, and the fuse has already been lit. Now we’re just waiting for the explosion.

If this course continues, I think we’re headed for real economic damage. You’ll start to see layoffs ripple through industries that rely on imports—especially smaller manufacturers and suppliers who can’t just absorb these costs. Prices on everyday goods will climb, and not gradually. Consumers will feel it at the register, and demand will slow. Meanwhile, capital investment will freeze up because no one wants to build in uncertainty.

You push prices up and production down at the same time, and what you get is stagflation. We haven’t seen that in decades, but this strategy is laying the groundwork for it in real time. I hope I’m wrong—but right now, nothing about this feels stable or sustainable.
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Tightened immigration will prevent mass layoffs is one theory.

Trump tariffs to increase unemployment, but mass layoffs unlikely | Fox Business

Economists at Allianz forecast Trump's tariffs could negatively impact the U.S. economy, increase unemployment, cause higher inflation, and decrease exports due to retaliation.
www.foxbusiness.com
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K
Dattier said:
Uh-huh. No response to any actual content at hand, so you try to raise suspicions about the person behind the posts that have you so gobsmacked.

Bu-bu-but President Trump deserves more time to make mistakes while claiming everything he does is amaze-balls!

Hawhaw! Let's make jokes about the last President to make yerself feel gooder about the spectacle de merde you voted for.

And reading a novel makes your eyes glaze over. Did you mean to say that part out loud? Why not just admit that intellectual, logical, well-supported positions make you blow a gasket and you just can't keep up?
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Amaze-balls. Some of the sh- you post reminds me of that scene in Mean Girls when Regina George tells the girl from Party of 5: “ Quit trying to make Fetch happen. It’s not gonna happen”.
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K
Dattier said:
Uh-huh. No response to any actual content at hand, so you try to raise suspicions about the person behind the posts that have you so gobsmacked.

Bu-bu-but President Trump deserves more time to make mistakes while claiming everything he does is amaze-balls!

Hawhaw! Let's make jokes about the last President to make yerself feel gooder about the spectacle de merde you voted for.

And reading a novel makes your eyes glaze over. Did you mean to say that part out loud? Why not just admit that intellectual, logical, well-supported positions make you blow a gasket and you just can't keep up?
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Not to put words in Mac’s mouth, but we’ve all made the point that Thor’s concerns are well argued and as such duly noted, but that it’s too early to label Trump’s moves as mistakes. Thor has laid out a strong case as to why they will be proven to be mistakes.
Raise suspicions about the person. I’ve noted the timing of Thor’s arrival and if I were more cynical in nature I might find said timing convenient, but he brings a lot of knowledge and civility to the table so that outweighs any initial
concerns I might have had.
Again, you keep asserting that everyone is a-ok with all of Trumps moves on the economy That’s not a fair summary of our posts the past month or so. Perhaps it’s our predisposition to mostly give Trump the benefit of the doubt, or maybe Thor will be mostly proven correct in time.
Either way, it’s awfully early to be doing victory laps.
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Dattier
Mac9192 said:
No offense, but where were you @Th0r from 21 thru 24? I get that all of us on the right spent 4 years criticizing Biden. Our country turned into a full on shit show while he was in office. Trump may very well might be making some mistakes. I still think it's a little early to be blasting him, but that's a part of the game. Compared to the last administration though? No one knew who was making decisions while Ol Joe was eating Corn puffs, watching Looney Tunes, and being kept away from the public. There is NO defending that.

Sorry, but I tried reading the above novel, but my eyes glazed over.
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Uh-huh. No response to any actual content at hand, so you try to raise suspicions about the person behind the posts that have you so gobsmacked.

Bu-bu-but President Trump deserves more time to make mistakes while claiming everything he does is amaze-balls!

Hawhaw! Let's make jokes about the last President to make yerself feel gooder about the spectacle de merde you voted for.

And reading a novel makes your eyes glaze over. Did you mean to say that part out loud? Why not just admit that intellectual, logical, well-supported positions make you blow a gasket and you just can't keep up?
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Dattier
GhostOf301 said:
Just curious what outcome of this strategy you would consider a victory worth celebrating. It seems you already have your conclusions.
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"It seems you already have your conclusions," says the guy who has nothing to offer but memes p3ning libs.
Faced with solid analysis from someone you have no established knowledge of to base a personal attack on, you hem and haw and resort to "wuh-wuh-wuh-well, if you could do better, why aren't YOU President?"

This @Th0r dude couldn't have shown up at a better time... OH, but even THAT is part of your coloring playbook... see next post...
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Off-season thoughts

Dattier
bullcity gamer said:
timo or pisgah would one of you be able to have “Five Time National Champions” be updated on the home page?

I’m not trying to be a jerk, I’m very even keel. Duke hasn’t been 3 time National Champions since 2009.
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Well, trying very, very hard to be a jerk, I must point out that in 2009 we were still just a 3-time national champ. It was that first Monday in April of 2010 that we became 4-time national champs.
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Off-season thoughts

Dattier
So technically Pat, Maliq, Darren, Slim, and Caleb could declare for the NBA Draft by Saturday... but barring that, Stanley Borden is our only transfer/unexpected departure.
I think this is a testament to how our enjoyment as fans watching them was a reflection of how much fun they had together. I remember a moment on TV where Slim is celebrating on the bench after Mason hit a big shot when the 2 of them were perceived by us here to be in competition for minutes with each other. It was a really great snapshot of this season for me, and despite the expected loss of so, so, so much talent, it's a sign of how those guys we're losing nevertheless left a legacy of enjoyment and brotherhood that led to some other guys wanting to recreate that.

The challenge next year -- like K's challenge in '87 -- will be sustaining a high level of success and buy-in after a disappointing end to the previous season and max exodus.
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