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Don't talk to me about discrediting the messenger when you discredit ALL of msm 100% and suck at the teat of anyone who says something you like 100%. You've now brought up Stephen A Smith at least 3 times like he's suddenly speaking the Gospel.

Geez, I've pointed out tirelessly how conservative, professional historians rank President Biden in the middle of the pack as far as US President's go (way higher than I'd rank him, personally) and all you do is double-down on how anyone who even questions that he is the worst ever by far is 100% stupid, evil, corrupt, crazy, and lying. Worse than Presidents Andrew Johnson, James Buchanan, WH Harrison, Warren Harding, Herbert Hoover, Jimmy Carter, Richard Nixon, Millard Fillmore, and Franklin Pierce. If anyone says he's even close to overtaking the second-worst, they're 100% stupid, evil, corrupt, crazy, and lying.

See my parenthetical in the last paragraph? That's evidence right there that even for a President I'm not crazy about I can separate my personal opinion enough to hear objective expertise. You can't accept any slight difference of opinion without completely trashing that person's character. And you have the ignorant, blind audacity to claim you are the one above party politics after parroting nothing but rightwing talking points for years.
The American people know his admin was a fraud and his approval ratings reflect that.
No one cares what a bunch of Ivory tower professors think.
National security mtgs were canceled when Ol Joe was having a “ bad day” due to his worsening dementia And he was in the “middle of the pack”. Gotcha

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You wonder why you're called names. You're a clown Datt. I didn't tell Stephen A Smith to change his mind. Nor did I tell Chris Cuomo. Two guys who have spent years championing for the left. The one thing they both now share in common is they aren't tied to the corporate media. But, instead of being open that the information you're getting may be wrong, you do what you do best: you try discrediting the messenger.

I've told you from day one that Jan 6th wasn't all what we were told. Stephen A, to his credit, has kept an open mind. Facts keep hitting him in the head, so now he's saying I'VE BEEN LIED TO FOR A LONG TIME. ABOUT A LOT!
Don't talk to me about discrediting the messenger when you discredit ALL of msm 100% and suck at the teat of anyone who says something you like 100%. You've now brought up Stephen A Smith at least 3 times like he's suddenly speaking the Gospel.

Geez, I've pointed out tirelessly how conservative, professional historians rank President Biden in the middle of the pack as far as US President's go (way higher than I'd rank him, personally) and all you do is double-down on how anyone who even questions that he is the worst ever by far is 100% stupid, evil, corrupt, crazy, and lying. Worse than Presidents Andrew Johnson, James Buchanan, WH Harrison, Warren Harding, Herbert Hoover, Jimmy Carter, Richard Nixon, Millard Fillmore, and Franklin Pierce. If anyone says he's even close to overtaking the second-worst, they're 100% stupid, evil, corrupt, crazy, and lying.

See my parenthetical in the last paragraph? That's evidence right there that even for a President I'm not crazy about I can separate my personal opinion enough to hear objective expertise. You can't accept any slight difference of opinion without completely trashing that person's character. And you have the ignorant, blind audacity to claim you are the one above party politics after parroting nothing but rightwing talking points for years.

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Yes, I’m a coward for quoting your drivel verbatim. I left out the word therefore It changed the meaning a smidge but not significantly You sure do throw that word coward around a lot?
Is that not name calling? I appreciate Ghost’s patience when dealing with your crazy a—, but like my ex told me in college: “ I ain’t the one hun”
You're not the one for me to pay attention to then.

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I reject the notion that my side wants the govt as some separate entity to lord over everything. If that's true, than your side wants corporations to lord over everything. I think my side sees govt -- at its best and at its greatest potential -- as an extension of us, the people, and therefore the best tool for getting things done. How would you reframe the idea that your side worships corporations?

(If ^that's a "pivot," by the way, it's not some nefarious, sinister trick; it's a natural flow to conversation.)
Well, if you look at the left's general willingness to comply with every mandate or order that the government implements, and the way they conform to every social change almost seamlessly when it originates from the progressives and the weird trust that they have in the government, that seems to be who they worship ahead of any God.

I don't think the right worships corporations. I think the right understands that corporations create far more jobs and disturbes more wealth than the government. The flaws in corporations are greed and big fish eat little fish monopolies. But if you replace corporate greed with government greed, the government steals from you twice as much in that scenario. At least with capitalism, the small fish at least has the opportunity to become a big fish. With the socialism, the only big fish is the government while the rest of us are just fish in a tank waiting for the government to sprinkle some flakes for us all to fight over.
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You post a video of Stephen A Smith's unhinged ranting, then accuse ME of using a word salad and not being serious. 🤣

He's repeating or insinuating the same debunked claims about January 6th that you've been claiming for years. The 26 CIs did not start, lead, or otherwise cause the riot. Those that broke the law did not do so on the FBI's orders and were in fact told not to break any laws. He even has the numbers wrong: Of the 26, 4 entered the Capitol, 13 entered the restricted area outside, and 9 did not enter any area they shouldn't have been. Based on others who were prosecuted, only the 4 who entered the Capitol deserve even a second look. I don't know why they weren't charged or what % of people who did enter the Capitol were charged. And I've already told you all of this, yet here you are still pushing the same crap.
You wonder why you're called names. You're a clown Datt. I didn't tell Stephen A Smith to change his mind. Nor did I tell Chris Cuomo. Two guys who have spent years championing for the left. The one thing they both now share in common is they aren't tied to the corporate media. But, instead of being open that the information you're getting may be wrong, you do what you do best: you try discrediting the messenger.

I've told you from day one that Jan 6th wasn't all what we were told. Stephen A, to his credit, has kept an open mind. Facts keep hitting him in the head, so now he's saying I'VE BEEN LIED TO FOR A LONG TIME. ABOUT A LOT!

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Liar. Here's what I said: "...my side sees govt -- at its best and at its greatest potential -- as an extension of us, the people, and therefore the best tool for getting things done."

You're intellectually dishonest and cowardly for deliberately taking what I said out of context. You outnumber me here everybody to one, yet you're still too much of a chicken manure coward to engage with any integrity.
Yes, I’m a coward for quoting your drivel verbatim. I left out the word therefore It changed the meaning a smidge but not significantly You sure do throw that word coward around a lot?
Is that not name calling? I appreciate Ghost’s patience when dealing with your crazy a—, but like my ex told me in college: “ I ain’t the one hun”

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You post a video of Stephen A Smith's unhinged ranting, then accuse ME of using a word salad and not being serious. 🤣

He's repeating or insinuating the same debunked claims about January 6th that you've been claiming for years. The 26 CIs did not start, lead, or otherwise cause the riot. Those that broke the law did not do so on the FBI's orders and were in fact told not to break any laws. He even has the numbers wrong: Of the 26, 4 entered the Capitol, 13 entered the restricted area outside, and 9 did not enter any area they shouldn't have been. Based on others who were prosecuted, only the 4 who entered the Capitol deserve even a second look. I don't know why they weren't charged or what % of people who did enter the Capitol were charged. And I've already told you all of this, yet here you are still pushing the same crap.

You said a few days ago that sometimes the difference between a conspiracy theory and the truth is 6 months (or something like that). I concede that yes, sometimes people are onto something early. Would you also concede that sometimes you can repeat a lie so often that people start believing it? I bet you can't admit even that, and that -- along with your continuing to do what I have underlined above -- is why you are not a serious person who has any credibility when claiming to be above party politics, or an independent thinker, or any ability to self-reflect, or anything other than extremist hyperbole.
You take the Feds at their word? Of course they’re going to deny culpability. Jan 6 is a sacred day for the Left, and its sanctity will be protected at all costs even if Wray has to perjure himself. Same goes for his underlings

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Another I’m a victim post from a befuddled Leftist. Then the cherry on top: Govt is the best tool for getting things done.
No response is further needed. Your posts say it all.
Liar. Here's what I said: "...my side sees govt -- at its best and at its greatest potential -- as an extension of us, the people, and therefore the best tool for getting things done."

You're intellectually dishonest and cowardly for deliberately taking what I said out of context. You outnumber me here everybody to one, yet you're still too much of a chicken manure coward to engage with any integrity.

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I've noticed and I appreciate it. It's a small sample size still. I think I've put in considerable effort, as well. Keep in mind that even if you're playing nice, mac and kd and that other guy rarely are, so you're only having to deal with one person.

I reject the notion that my side wants the govt as some separate entity to lord over everything. If that's true, than your side wants corporations to lord over everything. I think my side sees govt -- at its best and at its greatest potential -- as an extension of us, the people, and therefore the best tool for getting things done. How would you reframe the idea that your side worships corporations?

(If ^that's a "pivot," by the way, it's not some nefarious, sinister trick; it's a natural flow to conversation.)
Another I’m a victim post from a befuddled Leftist. Then the cherry on top: Govt is the best tool for getting things done.
No response is further needed. Your posts say it all.
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Well first off, after admitting Trump won, you quickly have gone back to your usual ways. When you’re given an example, and Stephen A Smith is just one of several left leaning talking heads that are admitting now what we’ve been saying, your response is calling it a “gotcha” example. Would you prefer it to be Sean Hannity?

And we can’t solve anything because you aren’t serious about it. Saying you want to solve anything is nothing more than word salad.
You post a video of Stephen A Smith's unhinged ranting, then accuse ME of using a word salad and not being serious. 🤣

He's repeating or insinuating the same debunked claims about January 6th that you've been claiming for years. The 26 CIs did not start, lead, or otherwise cause the riot. Those that broke the law did not do so on the FBI's orders and were in fact told not to break any laws. He even has the numbers wrong: Of the 26, 4 entered the Capitol, 13 entered the restricted area outside, and 9 did not enter any area they shouldn't have been. Based on others who were prosecuted, only the 4 who entered the Capitol deserve even a second look. I don't know why they weren't charged or what % of people who did enter the Capitol were charged. And I've already told you all of this, yet here you are still pushing the same crap.

You said a few days ago that sometimes the difference between a conspiracy theory and the truth is 6 months (or something like that). I concede that yes, sometimes people are onto something early. Would you also concede that sometimes you can repeat a lie so often that people start believing it? I bet you can't admit even that, and that -- along with your continuing to do what I have underlined above -- is why you are not a serious person who has any credibility when claiming to be above party politics, or an independent thinker, or any ability to self-reflect, or anything other than extremist hyperbole.

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I feel like I have made a better effort at conversating with you without the insults lately, than the other way around. You refuse to stay on topic and continue to pivot to where you think you have the advantage. It's whatever. And yes, your side wants the government to be lord.
I've noticed and I appreciate it. It's a small sample size still. I think I've put in considerable effort, as well. Keep in mind that even if you're playing nice, mac and kd and that other guy rarely are, so you're only having to deal with one person. If you've been collateral damage in the mud-slinging they insist on, sorry. It happens.

I reject the notion that my side wants the govt as some separate entity to lord over everything. If that's true, than your side wants corporations to lord over everything. I think my side sees govt -- at its best and at its greatest potential -- as an extension of us, the people, and therefore the best tool for getting things done. How would you reframe the idea that your side worships corporations?

(If ^that's a "pivot," by the way, it's not some nefarious, sinister trick; it's a natural flow to conversation.)

Movies, TV shows you are watching.

One of the most hilarious series of all time. Lasted just about the right amount of time. The first season was filmed here in Wilmington, maybe part of the 2nd as well. Don't remember. Pretty cool seeing some of the old school Wilmington bars on TV.
I'm watching it over again for probably the 6th or 7th time. I plan on watching Vice Principals again after I finish this. And I cannot wait for the new season of Gemstones. John Goodman can do no wrong.

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When either of you or any other conservative here wants to put aside name-calling and finger-pointing and throwing gotcha examples out there at every opportunity, let me know.

How do we solve anything?
Well first off, after admitting Trump won, you quickly have gone back to your usual ways. When you’re given an example, and Stephen A Smith is just one of several left leaning talking heads that are admitting now what we’ve been saying, your response is calling it a “gotcha” example. Would you prefer it to be Sean Hannity?

And we can’t solve anything because you aren’t serious about it. Saying you want to solve anything is nothing more than word salad.

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When either of you or any other conservative here wants to put aside name-calling and finger-pointing and throwing gotcha examples out there at every opportunity, let me know.

The last thing you said to me before my last comment, ghost, was that my side wants the govt to be the lord. GTMLO of here with that crap.

The last thing you said to that point, mac, was basically for me to love it or leave it, that tired, simplistic dismissal from 60 years ago. GTMLO of here with that crap.

How do we solve anything?
I feel like I have made a better effort at conversating with you without the insults lately, than the other way around. You refuse to stay on topic and continue to pivot to where you think you have the advantage. It's whatever. And yes, your side wants the government to be lord.

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You're a liar. There's no other way to put it.
No you're not.
When either of you or any other conservative here wants to put aside name-calling and finger-pointing and throwing gotcha examples out there at every opportunity, let me know.

The last thing you said to me before my last comment, ghost, was that my side wants the govt to be the lord. GTMLO of here with that crap.

The last thing you said to that point, mac, was basically for me to love it or leave it, that tired, simplistic dismissal from 60 years ago. GTMLO of here with that crap.

How do we solve anything?
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