timritterus said:

Gillis. I believe he play a lot of 4 for us this year. He played there for Purdue too. He's jacked, plays solid defense, and can shoot/space the floor.


If that's who starts, Sion will be the first perimeter player off the bench. He can come in for any of the 1, 2, or 3. I think we will keep one of Foster or Proctor on the court basically all the time. When Gillis comes in, either he or Flagg can play 3 or the 4. And yes, Brown and Mal can play together with Flagg shifting down to the 3.


I think Kon will be much, much better than Power, but if not, I think Sion could start.



Of all of these, literally Singler was the only one to not play the 4 when we won the national championship. Hell, Battier guarded their 5, Woods (for longer than he should have), in 01 championship game. Amile played center and guarded Kaminisky when Okafor was in foul trouble, while Winslow matched up with their 4 (Nigel Hayes) like he did all year.

You're basically making my point for me. Just because you have some other big guys on the roster, your best team may be having only one of them starting/playing big minutes.

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Winslow played sf Amile and Okafor started and Amile got put on Frank when both Marshall and Okafor were in foul trouble . Winslow was way above his development physical size wise so he was able to switch but still played sf .
We will see how the season turns out .
Any one read how Cooper was tired and gassed during the Scrimmage. He said his lungs were killing him .

I know @pisgah101 was affected by the storm. I know he has power now but his parents don’t.

I was disappointed once we took the lead our defense seemed to ease up on the pressure. Couldn't get a stop

Believe it or not, Sion played some 5 at Tulane. It's not ideal; but if foul trouble you have a 6-6 225 strong guy to plug in there. He blocked several of Mal's shots in the low post in a scrimmage.

jamsession2 said:

Tim you're making a good point, but keep in mind Shane was a senior and Winslow was a physical stud. Singler played relaxed all season. Thomas, Zou, Mason and Miles...no pressure, just score. That's what we want for Cooper, no pressure. If the game ever got physical we do not know what Cooper will do. That's actually scary. The team must protect Cooper for his offensive skillset.

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Yeah, agreed. Thats why I think there will be times where we shift Cooper to the 3. It's a good thing we have strong guys in Sion, Brown, and Mason who will be able help with that physicality.

timritterus said:

Gillis. I believe he play a lot of 4 for us this year. He played there for Purdue too. He's jacked, plays solid defense, and can shoot/space the floor.


If that's who starts, Sion will be the first perimeter player off the bench. He can come in for any of the 1, 2, or 3. I think we will keep one of Foster or Proctor on the court basically all the time. When Gillis comes in, either he or Flagg can play 3 or the 4. And yes, Brown and Mal can play together with Flagg shifting down to the 3.


I think Kon will be much, much better than Power, but if not, I think Sion could start.



Of all of these, literally Singler was the only one to not play the 4 when we won the national championship. Hell, Battier guarded their 5, Woods (for longer than he should have), in 01 championship game. Amile played center and guarded Kaminisky when Okafor was in foul trouble, while Winslow matched up with their 4 (Nigel Hayes) like he did all year.

You're basically making my point for me. Just because you have some other big guys on the roster, your best team may be having only one of them starting/playing big minutes.

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Tim you're making a good point, but keep in mind Shane was a senior and Winslow was a physical stud. Singler played relaxed all season. Thomas, Zou, Mason and Miles...no pressure, just score. That's what we want for Cooper, no pressure. If the game ever got physical we do not know what Cooper will do. That's actually scary. The team must protect Cooper for his offensive skillset.

bullcity gamer said:

I’ve said this before, this is the Deepest Duke Team since the 2010-2011 Duke Team. That team essentially had 7 guys capable of starting. The 2024-2025 Blue Devils arguably will have 10 guys capable of starting.

2010-2011:

Kyrie
Smith
Singler
Kelly
MP2
Curry (Starter when Kyrie went down)
MP1 (Started a few games)
Dawkins
Thornton
Hairston

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Who started on this team was based on matchups and Coach K's trust. Jon may lean more with the talent.

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We will know what this team is when they play an upperclassmen team.

I’ve said this before, this is the Deepest Duke Team since the 2010-2011 Duke Team. That team essentially had 7 guys capable of starting. The 2024-2025 Blue Devils arguably will have 10 guys capable of starting.

2010-2011:

Kyrie
Smith
Singler
Kelly
MP2
Curry (Starter when Kyrie went down)
MP1 (Started a few games)
Dawkins
Thornton
Hairston

sheyduke said:

What happens if Flag gets into fouls trouble at the pf spot ? Then who do you bring in at pf ?

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Gillis. I believe he play a lot of 4 for us this year. He played there for Purdue too. He's jacked, plays solid defense, and can shoot/space the floor.

sheyduke said:

So let’s say you start Mal, Flag, Kon, Foster and Proctor. Who’s your back up pg and pf? Sion and Gillis?

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If that's who starts, Sion will be the first perimeter player off the bench. He can come in for any of the 1, 2, or 3. I think we will keep one of Foster or Proctor on the court basically all the time. When Gillis comes in, either he or Flagg can play 3 or the 4. And yes, Brown and Mal can play together with Flagg shifting down to the 3.

sheyduke said:

I’ve listened to posters on here say the same thing they said about Power and Stewart like they are saying about Kon this year . How did that pan out ?

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I think Kon will be much, much better than Power, but if not, I think Sion could start.

sheyduke said:

And just for giggles what position did Winslow. Singler and Battier play when Duke won it all in 01,10 and 15 ? SF.
Singler had Thomas and Zoubs
Battier had Boozer and Dunleavy
Winslow had Amile and Okafor .
Tatum if you want to add had Bolden and White and Obi oh and Amile and Javin .

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Of all of these, literally Singler was the only one to not play the 4 when we won the national championship. Hell, Battier guarded their 5, Woods (for longer than he should have), in 01 championship game. Amile played center and guarded Kaminisky when Okafor was in foul trouble, while Winslow matched up with their 4 (Nigel Hayes) like he did all year.

You're basically making my point for me. Just because you have some other big guys on the roster, your best team may be having only one of them starting/playing big minutes.

christophero said:

The Kon/Power comparison is not really apt. Power was one guy raving about him. Goodman maybe? Kon has had his entire team, the coaches, scouts and onlookers all summer raving. Could he be overrated? Sure. But he is a player, sophomore Kennard maybe. Some have said he was easily our best player. That may be a bit much, but the hype seems legit. But Shey is right; lets see how Kon does when the best wing defender is on him. But that is good, because if they double Kon someone else is open.

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Don’t think they will double Kon . He’s not Uber quick so they know if he picks up his dribble he’s passing . It was more than Goodman raving about Power. The same guy that was talking about Kon at practice was one too.
ASU is going to be a good sample size of what lineups, rotations and defense offense could look like as the season progresses.
Could have said , IMO Flag playing all season at the four is waist . But I was under the impression every poster knew that was my opinion not everyone’s but this is simply a message board . If I truly knew a whole lot about player development and coaching I’d be one instead of and electrician/ gun restoration business owner.

The Kon/Power comparison is not really apt. Power was one guy raving about him. Goodman maybe? Kon has had his entire team, the coaches, scouts and onlookers all summer raving. Could he be overrated? Sure. But he is a player, sophomore Kennard maybe. Some have said he was easily our best player. That may be a bit much, but the hype seems legit. But Shey is right; lets see how Kon does when the best wing defender is on him. But that is good, because if they double Kon someone else is open.

bullcity gamer said:

shey I know you’ve said in the past spelling isn’t your thing. Just want to clarify it’s TJ Power.

Please don’t take this post the wrong way just want to let you know it’s Power and not Powers.

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Yeah I have lol. I don’t take any post wrong nothing wrong with correcting. I fixed it . Chris gets on me all the time about it . I got big fingers pushing on my phones keypad lol.

SDevada said:

Fact check: Six days of Trump lies about the Hurricane Helene response | CNN Politics

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CNN? Even Colbert’s audience laughed at the prospect that Cnn is anything other than a shill for the Dem Party.

GhostOf301 said:

These people would sacrifice their first born for their political party. I have no doubt.

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Only when they run out of cats and ducks

SDevada said:

I din’t care what it was for. Bottom line Trump did precisely what he is purposely incorrectly lying that Biden did.

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Putting up thousands of illegals in NYC hotels? Funny that doesn’t sound like the Trump I know

SDevada said:

It is a fair question. Although I guess you guys are so comfortable making shit up that you don’t care about truth or accuracy.

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Yeh girl, I hate it when people make shit up..: like Sandmann, Border Agent Whip Gate, Russia Hoax, the fine people hoax, the laptop conspiracy, the Lab leak conspiracy.
I agree; I hate it when people make shit up

SDevada said:

Dude. Neither one of us said one single thing that could somehow be read to mean that we did not have sympathy for what was going on in NC. I have a number of friends there and I still have not heard from a couple. We were just calling out Trump’s b**sh**, eaten hook line and sinker by the conservative mouth breathers here, that FEMA was not doing anything and that Biden and Harris did not care.

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It was kind of cool on Stranger Things when twelve year old characters used the term “mouth breathers” but when you use it, it’s just kind of, well, sad All due respect.. Dudette

shey I know you’ve said in the past spelling isn’t your thing. Just want to clarify it’s TJ Power.

Please don’t take this post the wrong way just want to let you know it’s Power and not Powers.

An out of touch, angry liberal that lives nowhere near NC, and gets her info from biased, corrupt sources, is trying to lecture people that live near the mountains of this state. Most of us, if not all, have some form of connection to what’s going on there.

Nothing lines up to what @SDevada says, but she doesn’t care at all. Then to make matters worse, her TDS is on full display when she starts blaming him. A guy who hasn’t been the President since January 2020. Let that sink in.

This shows how mentally unstable this broad is.

SDevada said:

And again, you continue to regurgitate lies while moving the goal posts. The Dems “damage control” is simply trying to get the truth out there over the lies Trump is spewing that you and your little boyfriends here are devouring at an alarming rate.

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Shut the fvck up about Trump. No one cares what Trump is saying. You can trust your little guys at CNN and eat up the press secretary's words like turkey on Thanksgiving, they're just as big of liars as Trump is, if not more. You have people ITT telling you about the experiences of people who they know, but you'll take datt's word because he says two people suck the government's ass. Everything critical about this, you call lies. It's like you actually believe that the government, this regime in particular, is perfect.

There is a huge effort to suppress negative reporting on this. You can't find anything to make the response look bad. I guess that means it's perfect. Forget the people who don't live in Asheville or Boone, they're all a bunch of liars.

timritterus said:

You've made that comment about a wasted year if Cooper plays the 4 over and over this offseason. Was it a waste to play these guys at the 4 at Duke - Battier, Tatum, Winslow, Singler, etc? All went on to play sf in the NBA. "Why go after Mal or Brown if you already had Flag to play the four ?" Because you need someone to play the 5, right? I'm sure they knew Pat wouldn't be playing many minutes this year even if he was totally healthy. He was going to need a development year after missing most of his senior season.

So why do you think Cooper shouldn't play the 4? He's too small? I think he can handle a Cade Tyson. Sure, there may be a few teams that play big, and in those games I'd be totally fine with Brown playing the 4. We just don't have any big guys behind Mal and Brown at all, so you better not have foul trouble or ever get tired.

"Kon was getting blew by at CTC so what sf is he guarding ?" What position do you think Kon should guard? I suggested he could potentially guard a 4 at times and you responded by saying he was getting blown by at ctc. So, would he be better at guarding at 2? I'm confused by that comment.

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Because cooper has stated several times he doesn’t want to play the four . Just like Flip not wanting to play the five . Because Kon can play the combo guard if needed . He played pg in high school and sg . This is why I said play Cooper limited at the four . Name one team that will role out a from court of 7-2, 6-9 and 6-9?
You start Mal and Brown to let Brown cover Mals mistakes why he learns . Foul trouble happens then switch Brown to the five and Cooper to the four with either Evans or Mason to cover at sf . What happens if Flag gets into fouls trouble at the pf spot ? Then who do you bring in at pf ? Big pat had already committed to play for Duke so you had a center already prior to Mal committing and Brown .
Duke will switch a lot so as long as Brown and Mal are manning the post it doesn’t matter who blows by Kon you have length and rim protection to make up for it .
So let’s say you start Mal, Flag, Kon, Foster and Proctor. Who’s your back up pg and pf? Sion and Gillis? You got Brown coming off the bench for Mal so that leaves you Evans to float between sg and sf .
I’ve listened to posters on here say the same thing they said about Power and Stewart like they are saying about Kon this year . How did that pan out ?
Notice I also say over and over that the ASU game will show us more about this team .
And just for giggles what position did Winslow. Singler and Battier play when Duke won it all in 01,10 and 15 ? SF.
Singler had Thomas and Zoubs
Battier had Boozer and Dunleavy
Winslow had Amile and Okafor .
Tatum if you want to add had Bolden and White and Obi oh and Amile and Javin .