I know it's fun to talk about starters, individual players, coaches, recruiting, schedules, legacy, etc... But what do we think is the formula to winning it all? There must be some concrete things that must happen to make a team bring home the Gold. What did Duke do in 91. 92, 01, 10 and 15?
What's the Formula to winning a SHIP?
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Well...talent, coaching (Yeah, K helps a lot), and a willingness to work hard toward a goal is a good start. Avoiding injuries, and being a little lucky helps also.
Oh, and perhaps most importantly, having enough money to pay off the refs. That's big, really, really big.
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Oh, and perhaps most importantly, having enough money to pay off the refs. That's big, really, really big.
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It all starts with high-level talent. No one, not even a coach as gifted as K, gets it done without great players. The beauty of K is that he has gotten done with several different kinds of great. He can facilitate great better than anyone who ever coached. He has taken many completely different kinds of teams, with wildly different strengths and make-ups, and made them the best they could be.
A smart and talented PG
Very strong collective team defense.
Luck.
After that eh, I don't know.
Very strong collective team defense.
Luck.
After that eh, I don't know.
IMO I think it takes a balance of elite players, solid role players, experienced players, great coaching, team chemistry and a little luck thrown in.
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Doing, as a unit, what you do better than almost everyone else. And luck does have a little bit to do with it!
Duke need$ a little more luck than other$ though, $upposedly.
Duke need$ a little more luck than other$ though, $upposedly.
Take more shots than the other team and you have a good chance to score more points than them. Limit how many shots the other team takes and increase the number of shot your team takes.. How to do this? REBOUNDING... on both ends of the court.
Play good defense.. Don't give them anything easy. Try to make the other team take a bad shot. Try to force turnovers.
On offense, I agree having a talented PG who can distribute the ball well is key. And a balanced attack!
I feel like the team that does all of these things well is the team to beat... i.e. - Duke 2015!!
Play good defense.. Don't give them anything easy. Try to make the other team take a bad shot. Try to force turnovers.
On offense, I agree having a talented PG who can distribute the ball well is key. And a balanced attack!
I feel like the team that does all of these things well is the team to beat... i.e. - Duke 2015!!
Get the easiest region in the tournament. We've done that each time we have won it all you know?
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Chemistry, good/great guard play, post play that is serviceable at a minimum, coaching, and being tough mentally. Some senior leadership really helps too. Those guys are just on a different mission usually than the younger guys.
Talent is number one. But even with talent, there are other teams who have it too.
But I'd also go back to what ODD said about luck. While we played great defense down the stretch against Wisconsin, they also missed some shots. Some shots that could have completely changed the perception.
Take a look at all of the championship teams.
1991 & 1992 - Experienced teams who weren't afraid of the big moment, with a number of players on those said teams who learned from some heart-breaking Final Four losses prior. Oh yeah, some guy (kid at the time) named Laettner was on those teams too.
2001 - This team maybe had the best two players in the country that year.
2010 - Experience. Talented team, but clearly the least talented of our five championship teams. And that's not a slight on them.
2015 - Very little experience, but immense talent. Quinn was the leader, but after Rasheed had been dismissed, he was the only guy who had played a major role in the past. Also had a kid with Stones that was simply unteachable. One of the best freshmen classes in the history of college basketball.
Now, look at some of the really great teams that didn't win it all. In 1999, for example, we were every bit as talented as every team that won a title, but we ran into a better UConn team 'that' night. I don't think it was an inherent team problem that cost them a championship. Scotty Thurman broke the hearts of a Duke team that vastly overachieved and may have been the most complete Duke team ever when it come to togetherness and heart. They had every intangible to win a title, but Thurman made an incredible shot. That happens.
Basically, the one thing I would say all of our championship teams had in common was talent. Some more, some less....but make no mistake, those teams were talented. I just think teams click on different levels.
But I'd also go back to what ODD said about luck. While we played great defense down the stretch against Wisconsin, they also missed some shots. Some shots that could have completely changed the perception.
Take a look at all of the championship teams.
1991 & 1992 - Experienced teams who weren't afraid of the big moment, with a number of players on those said teams who learned from some heart-breaking Final Four losses prior. Oh yeah, some guy (kid at the time) named Laettner was on those teams too.
2001 - This team maybe had the best two players in the country that year.
2010 - Experience. Talented team, but clearly the least talented of our five championship teams. And that's not a slight on them.
2015 - Very little experience, but immense talent. Quinn was the leader, but after Rasheed had been dismissed, he was the only guy who had played a major role in the past. Also had a kid with Stones that was simply unteachable. One of the best freshmen classes in the history of college basketball.
Now, look at some of the really great teams that didn't win it all. In 1999, for example, we were every bit as talented as every team that won a title, but we ran into a better UConn team 'that' night. I don't think it was an inherent team problem that cost them a championship. Scotty Thurman broke the hearts of a Duke team that vastly overachieved and may have been the most complete Duke team ever when it come to togetherness and heart. They had every intangible to win a title, but Thurman made an incredible shot. That happens.
Basically, the one thing I would say all of our championship teams had in common was talent. Some more, some less....but make no mistake, those teams were talented. I just think teams click on different levels.
Great Coach, great players, great team chemistry, limited, if any injuries, a little luck, great tourney seeding, good match-ups, no injuries, and a little more luck. Nothing to it, just a walk in the park!!
Go Duke!!
JC-OFC
Go Duke!!
JC-OFC
I think one of the keys is a versatile 3/4 ie Grant Hill, Shane Battier, Kyle Singler and Justise Winslow
