Will not criticize him for helping his dad but really wanted him in Durham. May have messed up the chemistry of the team but if not it would have been fun to watch
Patrick Baldwin’s dad fired?
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Dad really crushed his kids draft stock and cost him millions. Pretty sad.
Yep! Plus he went to a small school that is never on tv. This kid totally got forgotten
Big shooter, chip on the shoulder and looking to rebrand. Absolutely sign me up!
If the kid is willing to come back to school for another year. Could be a real steal for some team. I think what ultimately happens though is he declares and goes late first round
I agree. I think he still goes and someone takes their chances with him knowing that what happened this year can be fixed. The injuries thing might be the biggest red flag teams have with him.
I’ll never understand those who chided the decision as “ well if he learned basketball from his dad….” What a dumb decision and selfish imo for his dad to recruit him. Gotta do what’s best for your kids future at that point. unfortunately Baldwin got stuck playing against low level competition AND injured. Hope we can snag him up, would be a great
Playing for one's father has worked out for some, and Baldwin was going to be a first round pick no matter where he went. With the injuries it was kind of a bad perfect storm. To me he didn't seem ready for the physicality of college basketball. Players like that can make huge leaps their 2nd year. Baldwin would start imo next year. We tend to see freshman in best case scenarios. He probably goes late first round. He could use another year of college, but he probably goes. I'd be thrilled to have him.
Since we don't have all the facts, we don't know whether this decision was dumb or selfish, we just know it did not work out the way everyone wanted. That is a separate issue, though.
my feeling is that if a kid wants to play for his dad for a season then I respect that. Maybe he'll go 12th in the draft and not 6th but that's maybe an acceptable price to pay.
I don’t think anyone bemoans the kid or any kid for wanting to play for their dad. Not really the point here. His dad was getting fired last year. Because he just isn’t a good coach. His son was the only reason they didn’t fire him. If his son doesn’t go to UWM he’s canned an hour after his son commits to Duke. So I get it.
Problem is, it was a very shortsighted and costly move. He cost him elite coaching, superior competition both in practice and in games, NIL money, and draft stock. He’s not moving from 6th to 12th. Many mock drafts have him late first to mid second round. That’s a lot of money. And guess what, his dad lost the job anyway- which was extremely predictable. He also costs his son the life experiences. So yeah, in this scenario, I think we all get why he went to play for dad, and we can also get why it was a pretty bad move.
Curious about his D. Always could use another shooter, but this team finally proved that you can have offense and defense in this era at Duke. Hopefully, next year is more of the same in that regard.
To be honest, I'd rather have another Theo John to fill out the roster next year instead of a young, inexperienced guy who doesn't, or can't, play D.
To be honest, I'd rather have another Theo John to fill out the roster next year instead of a young, inexperienced guy who doesn't, or can't, play D.
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6th to 12th is about a 7.5 million dollar difference in the rookie contracts, I think that is a pretty big price to pay. Plus he isnt going to go 12th, most places have him in the 20s or later. The difference in pay between say 6th and 20th is about 11.5 million dollars. And that is the assumption he goes at 20 and doesnt slip to the 2nd round where he no longer is even guaranteed getting a guaranteed contract.
This year went as bad as it possible could for the Baldwin family.
We’d all sign up for another Theo. Man that kid made fans for life coming here.
I’d absolutely take Baldwin though. Especially if he’s coming in with so much to prove.
Baldwin is slipping to late first round on some mocks. Someonw will draft him but hes a few years away from being an NBA contributer at best.
But his plan was to be OAD. He will go first round after work outs. I don’t think he was worried about that . Mistake maybe.. how many kids wouldn’t look out for their father in that situation.
im sure I’d he comes back , Scheyer would definitely give him a call.
Duke has not typically been involved with players who rejected them the first time around. Maybe Scheyer will be different on this point from K but I doubt K would be giving him a call.
K would understand IMO and give him a call. But it’s a mute point the kid is going pro . He’ll go in the first round .
Who knows honestly. Wish him the best. Kinda a mute point he didn’t play for Duke he was just a recruit most fans wanted.
Can't blame the kid for wanting to play for his dad, but damn, what a terrible decision he made. Like others have said, his draft stock fell rapidly.
If anything I would blame the dad for not looking out for his son's future. There is no way he would have thought that playing in the Horizon league would improve his play. I mean, any poster here would know that
His dad literally should have made him go to Duke. Whatever. He's gone to the NBA I'm sure.
Yup. Dad got an extra year for sacrificing his son good job dad
Perhaps someone should report the dad to social services. Strong case for abuse.
The kid chose to play for his dad. Would you really hold that against him if he wanted to transfer to Duke?
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Sign me up for that if Baldwin finds out he isnt a 1st round pick this year and decides to transfer.
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Sign me up for that if Baldwin finds out he isnt a 1st round pick this year and decides to transfer.
not the way I see it SDevada. The only thing that wouldn’t have made this not a dumb decision is if there was something going on medically the only blue echoes my thoughts exactly. Sorry but a father is supposed to put his child’s best interests going forward. Kid lost out on a lot. Even if he didn’t go to the NBA, it’s a great opportunity to obtain a degree from a top flight university. It’s like when Zion wanted to stay and coach k told him you’re not coming back. Sure we all wanted him to stay, but that would’ve been selfish. It’s not even a Duke thing, it’s about a father not recognizing the opportunities his son could’ve had and deciding not to step aside for it. To me that’s selfish
And he's most likely going to slip more since he wont get any kind of conference or tournament boost that we see some guys get every year. And if that ankle is still bothering him come the combine and private workout time. There is no chance he will go in the 1st round.
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