Off-season thoughts

[Mac9192]

The sad reality is if a school wants to have a chance to compete at a high level, they're going to have to open their checkbook. It's that simple. Coaching plays a role, but really only when they're playing another high payroll program. NC State brought in the best guy they think fits the times we are in.

Sounds like I'm describing the NBA.

 

[dukecorey]

My thing is that is almost Cooper Flagg money, which was believed to be 4.8 million NIL earnings last year. He was the best player in college basketball and most of it came from endorsements.

 

[sheyduke]

If this happens which seems likely . I think I’m going to be like Will and be less invested in college ball. Might as well watch the NBA and gleague . It’s kinda putting a damper on the whole brotherhood thing at this point .

 

[Willcampbell]

Yeah. Join the movement, Shey. (Although I don't watch the NBA either).
OFC

 

[bleediteveryday30]

I'll keep watching because I am invested in seeing Jon win Natty's and prove all the naysayers wrong, and I love Duke. Plus, we still get good kids. This was the most fun I have had watching college basketball in a long time, and I think we see the blueprint of what Jon is trying to do, so I am not ready to pack up my bags and say the hell with it yet. All that being said, it is very frustrating to watch what has happened and continues to happen with college basketball.

 

[pisgah101]

I'll keep watching because I am invested in seeing Jon win Natty's and prove all the naysayers wrong, and I love Duke. Plus, we still get good kids. This was the most fun I have had watching college basketball in a long time, and I think we see the blueprint of what Jon is trying to do, so I am not ready to pack up my bags and say the hell with it yet. All that being said, it is very frustrating to watch what has happened and continues to happen with college basketball.

I’ll watch. I love college basketball.. it’s my sports passion and it’s not even close. I don’t like the nil and money games but I also believe it was going on before just behind the scenes and to a lesser extent

 

[pisgah101]

Just saw a thing and I’m not saying it’s true at all but that Cooper was being offered between 12 and 20 million to return lol

 

[The_Only_Blue]

This is few months old but some reason came across my Twitter feed. Sucks we only got him for a year. So well spoken and a great ambassador for Duke basketball.

 

[christophero]

I see Mac's point about this affecting his enjoyment of the game. I was at that point this year as we had almost an entirely new team. I did start buying in about halfway through the season, mainly due to the way the team playing so unselfishly and locked in on D. Plus they were really, really good. But I also remember last year, a team that did not seem to like each other or play team ball at times. That team did manage to make an elite eight run but it came very close to imploding. It was frustrating to put that much energy into cheering for a team only to have most of them hit the portal. It's hard to say if this past year is the new norm or if we caught lightning in a bottle. 4 or 5 guys back seems like a good goal, and some portal players for experience. We did have great luck in the portal, with Brown and Sion being better than expected. That does not always happen, portal guys seem to be hit and miss.

 

[bleediteveryday30]

Just saw a thing and I’m not saying it’s true at all but that Cooper was being offered between 12 and 20 million to return lol

We all know it won't happen, but I would cry tears of joy if it did.

 

[dukecorey]

This is few months old but some reason came across my Twitter feed. Sucks we only got him for a year. So well spoken and a great ambassador for Duke basketball.

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Hoping for more players just like Sion James. It saddens me that Duke only got one year. I’m sure he would love to be back for more too.

 

[christophero]

I have no doubt Cooper wants to stay, but in the end he will go. I think Proctor is the guy we need to pay; I really would like a senior PG. or SG.

 

[dukesince91]

I can’t blame Evans at all if he leaves for 4 million dollars. NIL is way out of control, I know I would take the money and run if I was 19 years old. The future is an unknown and one bird in the hand is better than two in the bushes.

 

[dukecorey]

I can’t blame Evans at all if he leaves for 4 million dollars. NIL is way out of control, I know I would take the money and run if I was 19 years old. The future is an unknown and one bird in the hand is better than two in the bushes.

I understand, but I hope he understands the risk of leaving a program like Duke too. Does it hurt him in the long run. It’s about getting to the NBA and having a long career.

 

[christophero]

I do want Evans back, but I also am wondering if Ament would be a better fit. Evans is a gunner, which is nice when you come off the bench but if he is taking 15 plus shots a game it may affect team chemistry.

 

[LetsGoDuke83]

I do want Evans back, but I also am wondering if Ament would be a better fit. Evans is a gunner, which is nice when you come off the bench but if he is taking 15 plus shots a game it may affect team chemistry.

I want Evans as well but everything is saying is either Evans or ament which I don’t get becuase you can Isaiah at the 2. I think it comes down to defense which Jon is obsessed with. Maybe he doesn’t want two guys on the court that look 90lbs soaking wet

 

[AlanInNJ]

I agree dukesince91. Yes, it's completely out of control, but $4M is a lot of money. I don't know all these players' family or financial backgrounds, but $4M could go a long way in setting a young man and his family up. Indeed the future is uncertain.

Still stinks though if it happens.

 

[christophero]

I have no idea how NIL works. But it seems like you could take Ament's NIL $ and give it to Proctor, Evans and foster to keep them happy. If Ament chooses us it will probably be for a nice sum.

 

[bleediteveryday30]

I have no idea how NIL works. But it seems like you could take Ament's NIL $ and give it to Proctor, Evans and foster to keep them happy. If Ament chooses us it will probably be for a nice sum.

I'd rather have those three back than have Ament.

 

[CbusDukie]

I want Evans as well but everything is saying is either Evans or ament which I don’t get becuase you can Isaiah at the 2. I think it comes down to defense which Jon is obsessed with. Maybe he doesn’t want two guys on the court that look 90lbs soaking wet

Not sure much guarding would be going on.

 

[sheyduke]

4 million is a lot and I don’t and wouldn’t think bad of the kid for taking it . Right now I’m blaming the NCAA and wish theyed figure something out . 4 million is right at what Bronny got for a four year contract with the Lakers .

 

[christophero]

I wonder if Keels wishes he stayed in college. He could have made a mint in NIL at Duke or another school.

 

[bleediteveryday30]

Keels, DuVall, Steward, Frank Jackson, etc. Those guys would've benefited greatly from today's climate.

 

[christophero]

Matt Hurt would have killed it in the portal. Who wants a 6-10 lights out shooter who averaged 20ppg at Duke?

 

[bullcity gamer]

I’ll watch. I love college basketball.. it’s my sports passion and it’s not even close. I don’t like the nil and money games but I also believe it was going on before just behind the scenes and to a lesser extent

Same pisgah

 

[BOOGIEMAN1914]

4 million is a lot and I don’t and wouldn’t think bad of the kid for taking it . Right now I’m blaming the NCAA and wish theyed figure something out . 4 million is right at what Bronny got for a four year contract with the Lakers .

Bronny 4yr. / 7.9mil

 

[The_Only_Blue]

I want Evans as well but everything is saying is either Evans or ament which I don’t get becuase you can Isaiah at the 2. I think it comes down to defense which Jon is obsessed with. Maybe he doesn’t want two guys on the court that look 90lbs soaking wet

That's what I don't get either.

Proctor or Foster PG
Evans SG
Ament SF
Boozer PF
Pat or Maliq C

Only other reason I'm seeing is both Proctor and Foster returning which pushes Evans to SF which he may not want to play that position or he thinks he may get bumped to the bench again by Ament if we get him.

 

[christophero]

You will get it in 2 weeks when only one of them is on the roster.

 

[BOOGIEMAN1914]

You will get it in 2 weeks when only one of them is on the roster.

hopefully Slim

 

[christophero]

I'd gladly be wrong and have both

 

[dukecorey]

You will get it in 2 weeks when only one of them is on the roster.

Are you talking one of Evans or Ament? Or only one of Evans, Ament, Proctor & Foster? That would be painful if it’s the second one.

 

[BOOGIEMAN1914]

we have to get some good roster news and find some guys are staying that we aren't expecting as the portal is drying up...#IHOPE

are we looking at wilkerson and watkins(FSU)?

 

[hart2chesson]

FWIW.....

 

[christophero]

Finally !
That is decent news considering

 

[BOOGIEMAN1914]

If true....

PG: Foster
SG: ?
SF: Ament
PF: Boozer
C: Pat

 

[christophero]

Portal SG ASAP

 

[bleediteveryday30]

We need Proctor back. But I guess it's becoming more and more unlikely.

 

[BOOGIEMAN1914]

Portal SG ASAP

Watkins?... "no contact"

 

[BOOGIEMAN1914]

If true....

PG: Foster
SG: ?
SF: Ament
PF: Boozer
C: Pat

oops..i see Evans up from 50% to 65%
SG: Evans...=)

 

[christophero]

Proctor looked at some mocks and said ok maybe I might come back.