ADVERTISEMENT

Daniel Jones a top 10 pick?

smashmouth5

Devils Illustrated Hall of Famer
Aug 25, 2001
6,295
3,721
113
cbs sports newest mock draft has Jones going 9th to Jacksonville. That would be pretty exciting for the Duke football program.
 
It's possible if he goes this year. It's a very weak QB draft class. Selfishly, I wouldn't want him to leave and ave him for another year. Next year's is a lot more stacked, ultimately, he should do what's best for him.
 
I’m not a huge college football guy, and have only watched half our games, but how is Jones a top 10 pick? I’ll be honest, how is he a possible pick at all? Maybe it’s just the unlucky games I’ve gotten to see, but I’ve been far from impressed.
 
We’ll take him in Dallas. Anything is an improvement over what we have.
I don't think this is true at all. Dak is not the problem. (see: Jason Garrett, no WRs at all, Travis Frederick injured) If I could have any quarterback in the NFL, I'd probably take Dak around 15th. Jones is unlikely to be that good.
 
  • Like
Reactions: BlackKnightNut
I don't think this is true at all. Dak is not the problem. (see: Jason Garrett, no WRs at all, Travis Frederick injured) If I could have any quarterback in the NFL, I'd probably take Dak around 15th. Jones is unlikely to be that good.
Sorry but I disagree. It’s time to move on from the dak experiment. IMO we will never win a ship with him at qb
 
  • Like
Reactions: HonkeyT
Meh. If Trubisky can be a high pick anything is possible. Daniel needs a year of development but if he goes I tell Quentin next man up... His style gives us a different dimension that people aren't used to seeing from Duke, anyway.
 
  • Like
Reactions: hart2chesson
I’m not a huge college football guy, and have only watched half our games, but how is Jones a top 10 pick? I’ll be honest, how is he a possible pick at all? Maybe it’s just the unlucky games I’ve gotten to see, but I’ve been far from impressed.

Size, arm strength, and potential are his assets, decision making and pocket anxiety needs improvement. TBH, we would all be nervous in the pocket he stands in weekly.
 
I 'm not sure he's a top ten but I see him being a first rounder. He has some tools. If he can stay away from the injury curse I see him As a long time stater. Duke hasn't had a solid NFL an since Sonny Jurgenson.OFC
 
Daniel Jones at #9? Have they seen this kid play? What kind of crack are they smoking? Especially that “ makes good decisions with the ball”?
 
I don't think this is true at all. Dak is not the problem. (see: Jason Garrett, no WRs at all, Travis Frederick injured) If I could have any quarterback in the NFL, I'd probably take Dak around 15th. Jones is unlikely to be that good.
Dak is amazing as long as his first read option is open. If not he becomes way below replacement level.

Just saw another mock with Jones going to the Giants in the top 10 and as the 1st QB off the board. Seems to getting more and more love
 
Bingo. Jerry is the end all be all when it comes to problems for Dallas. As Rick would say, "I don't give a f#ck what YOU think, Jeeeeeeerrrrrrrry...."
Well to be fair we do have three championships since Jerry took over, but I don’t see anymore in the future.
 
Oh please. He had a good thing going with Jimmy and let ego get in the way. That's bad business, and we've seen how good he is at judging football coaches ever since. Those are Jimmys titles on the field, Jerry just watched and then got too involved...

Ok, I'm done lol.


LETS GO DUKE!!! Get it, Daniel!
 
Last edited:
Oh please. He had a good thing going with Jimmy and let ego get in the way. That's bad business, and we've seen how good he is at judging football coaches ever since. Those are Jimmys titles on the field, Jerry just watched and then got too involved...

Ok, I'm done lol.


LETS GO DUKE!!! Get it, Daniel!
1000% agree
 
  • Like
Reactions: BlackKnightNut
We will never win a ship with the current GM.

Or coach, or owner.

Honestly, Jones is your problem. The Boys won titles when Jones was letting smarter FB minds make ALL the decisions. He took a lot of credit he didn't deserve, but the FB minds were content to let the owner preen for the cameras. So long as he didn't interfere with the actual running of the team, the decision makers were content to let him hog undeserved attention/credit.
.
Unfortunately, Jones began to believe his own lies, essentially gaslighting himself. When he began to actually take on more of a decision making role, the team began to steadily decline. Now the people who run the team know that being in Jones's good graces, rather than actually seriously competing to win titles, is the key to sustained employment. Jones is unwilling to make the big moves to win because doing so would require him to essentially admit that he made mistakes in the past. He won't, so Dallas is hosed.
 
Back to the OP, I think a lot of NFL decision makers feel that Jones would thrive with a better supporting cast. He makes good decisions with the ball and makes accurate throws. While some or even many, here might disagree (or quibble) with those assessments, I think the NFL thinks that Jones is elite in those areas given his surrounding talent. Our O-line is decent a run blocking, but porous in pass protection. Further, we don't have any real "playmakers" at receiver. Well, we've got a few that might make plays after the catch, but no one that is great at getting open nor making contested catches. If the ball isn't perfectly thrown/placed, our receiving corps probably won't make a catch. Given the shoddy protection, and DJ's resulting need to get rid of the ball immediately, it is hard to make "perfect" passes.
.
I think NFL decision makers see in DJ a kid with a ton of tools, who is well versed in NFL practices and theory, that is surrounded by bad or mediocre players. Sure, the guys now are better than we used to have in the dark days. But we were truly horrific back then. We can be (and are) much better than that without being "good." Truth is, DJ plays with a few RBs that might make an NFL roster, and a couple of WRs that might get long looks (some younger ones could develop into league players), but he's played with precious few playmakers at WR/TE, and behind O lines with no NFL ability. One could argue that his pass protection has been the weakest aspect of our offense for his entire career. Behind a decent NFL line, throwing to NFL caliber WR/TE players, he could be a quality starter.
.
No one thinks he'll be a top tier QB in the league. But on a team with a good defense and solid run game, he could be enough of a game manager to squeak our some playoff victories. Worse QBs than he have won SBs.
 
I have no idea how to rate a college quarterback, but I do wonder if pro scouts are still thinking that Coach Cut is a quarterback whisperer. I love Coach Cut but I don't necessarily see that he does magic with QBs.
 
  • Like
Reactions: hart2chesson
LOL,us Cowboy fans don't have much to be thankful for since that trade,22 years of mediocrity

Try 50+ years and 0-4 in Super Bowls....the last of which was played in 1977, the year I was born.

Still salty over that DJ?? Hahahaha

I wouldn't even say salty. Embarrassed, would be a better word. Only the Babe Ruth trade rivals it in all of sports history.
 
  • Like
Reactions: BlackKnightNut
Try 50+ years and 0-4 in Super Bowls....the last of which was played in 1977, the year I was born.



I wouldn't even say salty. Embarrassed, would be a better word. Only the Babe Ruth trade rivals it in all of sports history.
Ouch haha
 
  • Like
Reactions: BlackKnightNut
I have no idea how to rate a college quarterback, but I do wonder if pro scouts are still thinking that Coach Cut is a quarterback whisperer. I love Coach Cut but I don't necessarily see that he does magic with QBs.

1000% agree. How much credit should he really get for the Mannings? They grew up in the practice facility of the Saints, and were groomed by their father, a HOF caliber QB. I don't know how much Cut improved them, TBH.
.
That said, DJ does click a lot boxes, and has done so in less than ideal circumstances at Duke.
 
Renfree and Lewis were both in the league. They were not great by any means but they did stick around for a few years. I think Sean battled injuries too.
 
  • Like
Reactions: BlackKnightNut
I sincerely believe that Jerry is the best owner and manager in the league, that Garrett is by far the best coach, and that Dak is the perfect quarterback. The Cowboys shouldn't change a thing. BTW I confess to being a 'Skins fan. Braves on the war path, fight for old D.C.!
 
Back to the OP, I think a lot of NFL decision makers feel that Jones would thrive with a better supporting cast. He makes good decisions with the ball and makes accurate throws. While some or even many, here might disagree (or quibble) with those assessments, I think the NFL thinks that Jones is elite in those areas given his surrounding talent. Our O-line is decent a run blocking, but porous in pass protection. Further, we don't have any real "playmakers" at receiver. Well, we've got a few that might make plays after the catch, but no one that is great at getting open nor making contested catches. If the ball isn't perfectly thrown/placed, our receiving corps probably won't make a catch. Given the shoddy protection, and DJ's resulting need to get rid of the ball immediately, it is hard to make "perfect" passes.
.
I think NFL decision makers see in DJ a kid with a ton of tools, who is well versed in NFL practices and theory, that is surrounded by bad or mediocre players. Sure, the guys now are better than we used to have in the dark days. But we were truly horrific back then. We can be (and are) much better than that without being "good." Truth is, DJ plays with a few RBs that might make an NFL roster, and a couple of WRs that might get long looks (some younger ones could develop into league players), but he's played with precious few playmakers at WR/TE, and behind O lines with no NFL ability. One could argue that his pass protection has been the weakest aspect of our offense for his entire career. Behind a decent NFL line, throwing to NFL caliber WR/TE players, he could be a quality starter.
.
No one thinks he'll be a top tier QB in the league. But on a team with a good defense and solid run game, he could be enough of a game manager to squeak our some playoff victories. Worse QBs than he have won SBs.
The real good ones don’t need anybody around them
 
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT