Dattier said:

You keep claiming what any rational person knows without refuting facts or presenting any of your own.

Like inflation, Presidents don't control gas prices.

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Th0r said:

You’re shifting the goalposts. The original question was about what each administration actually accomplished in their first 100 days. That’s the comparison. Not theories about deterrence. Not personal opinions about who’s tougher. Just results.

One administration passed a 1.9 trillion dollar law through Congress. The other issued executive orders. That’s not a matter of opinion. It’s a matter of record. And when you zoom out, the historical comparison makes it even worse. To pass zero major legislation in your first 100 days while holding both chambers of Congress and a friendly Supreme Court isn’t just underwhelming. It’s embarrassing.

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Th0r said:

You keep calling everything a media conspiracy, but you haven’t addressed anything I actually said. I laid out what each administration did in their first 100 days. That’s not spin. That’s public record. The American Rescue Plan was passed through Congress. It’s law. That’s governing.

Trump, in contrast, signed a historic number of executive orders. That’s not “harping.” It’s pointing out the difference between actions that last and actions that get reversed, blocked, or forgotten. Executive orders might feel bold, but without legislation behind them, they’re not built to hold up.

You brought up gas prices as your proof. But global oil markets don’t operate on inauguration timelines, and we both know that. If you want to have a real conversation, start with facts that reflect how governing actually works. I’m not here to argue feelings. I’m here to talk results.

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KDSTONE said:

130k apprehensions Feb 2023 and 24. This year 8300. Were new laws passed? Did the CBP increase its staff tenfold? No, they are now simply allowed to do their jobs. They signed up to be in law enforcement, not to be a glorified concierge. Biden should have been impeached for his dereliction at the border.
First priority of a President: protect its borders from invasion. Thousands on terror watch lists pored over our border while Biden had the FBI infiltrating PTA meetings . Shameful

Addendum about the numbers: the deterrence factor can’t be overestimated as well. Exponentially less people are making the trip since November Id wager. When Kamala told them “ Don’t come” they knew it was empty political rhetoric to save their hides. With Trump they don’t want to FAFO.

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Mac9192 said:

...any rational person knows Biden did no good for America, and he wasn't in charge. What he is though is a part of the establishment. Rotten to the core.

Trump hasn't been. You've been indoctrinated by the media, so you've been trained to critique him. That's a problem, and it's why you're stuck like you are.

I gave a clear, and obvious fact about gas prices. All within the first 100 days. You harp on executive orders.

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Mac9192 said:

Classic answers by leftists. Classic. Datt's answer is par for the course. He has no answer, even after it's been proven how crooked the media is. So all he does is come back with a childish retort that is meaningless. Now you on the other hand? You definitely think you're in the know. See above sentence on media though.

Again, that's because any rational person knows Biden did no good for America, and he wasn't in charge. What he is though is a part of the establishment. Rotten to the core.

Trump hasn't been. You've been indoctrinated by the media, so you've been trained to critique him. That's a problem, and it's why you're stuck like you are.

I gave a clear, and obvious fact about gas prices. All within the first 100 days. You harp on executive orders.

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Dattier said:

What are you talking about? I gave you an answer that contained exactly zero pronouns since you hate them so much.

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Mac9192 said:

Classic answers by leftists. Classic. Datt's answer is par for the course. He has no answer, even after it's been proven how crooked the media is. So all he does is come back with a childish retort that is meaningless.

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Mac9192 said:

The American Rescue Plan huh? To the tune of 1.9 trillion dollars? I bet there's enough pork in there that the pages squeal when you flip them.

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Th0r said:

I’m not downplaying border security. But let’s be honest about how these things work. The American Rescue Plan was a 1.9 trillion dollar law passed through Congress. That takes real leverage. It requires negotiation, committee work, floor votes, and actual bipartisan maneuvering. It’s a heavy lift.

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Th0r said:

Now you’re deflecting. You asked for a comparison of what each administration actually got done in their first 100 days, and I gave you one. Instead of engaging with that, you’re shifting to the border. Fine, let’s talk about it.

I’m not downplaying border security. But let’s be honest about how these things work. The American Rescue Plan was a 1.9 trillion dollar law passed through Congress. That takes real leverage. It requires negotiation, committee work, floor votes, and actual bipartisan maneuvering. It’s a heavy lift.

Trump’s approach on the border has been all through executive action. No new laws have been passed. And while that might sound decisive, it doesn’t have staying power. Executive orders are the lazy way out. Real change has to go through Congress. Without that, it’s a mirage. Policy that looks tough until you realize how little of it is built to last.

So sure, you can say the border matters more to you. That’s your opinion. But nothing I said was biased. It’s just the reality of what has actually happened.

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Dattier said:

The border numbers the Trump Administration has cited about the Trump Administration definitely look good for the Trump Administration.

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Th0r said:

Now you’re deflecting. You asked for a comparison of what each administration actually got done in their first 100 days, and I gave you one. Instead of engaging with that, you’re shifting to the border. Fine, let’s talk about it.

I’m not downplaying border security. But let’s be honest about how these things work. The American Rescue Plan was a 1.9 trillion dollar law passed through Congress. That takes real leverage. It requires negotiation, committee work, floor votes, and actual bipartisan maneuvering. It’s a heavy lift.

Trump’s approach on the border has been all through executive action. No new laws have been passed. And while that might sound decisive, it doesn’t have staying power. Executive orders are the lazy way out. Real change has to go through Congress. Without that, it’s a mirage. Policy that looks tough until you realize how little of it is built to last.

So sure, you can say the border matters more to you. That’s your opinion. But nothing I said was biased. It’s just the reality of what has actually happened.

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Dattier said:

The border numbers the Trump Administration has cited about the Trump Administration definitely look good for the Trump Administration.

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BOOGIEMAN1914 said:

reds avoided the sweep...game 4 tonight

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Mac9192 said:

See my post to @Dattier, who seems more interested in riding your coat tails than he does engaging in actual issues. You're as left leaning as he is to not give any credit to the border. I think we can all agree safety should be a priority, which Trump has made it to be. Of course any is better than what we did have.

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Mac9192 said:

What about the border? Can't argue that one. I think safety of our border trumps (no pun intended) some silly Relief Act.

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Th0r said:

You asked for a comparison, so I gave you one. Whether you liked the legislation or not isn’t really the point. The American Rescue Plan was real policy passed through Congress, signed into law, funded, and implemented. Trump, by contrast, passed no major legislation in his first 100 days. That’s not spin. That’s the legislative record.

You can argue about outcomes all day, but there’s the reality of what was actually done and then there’s the storyline built to distract from it. One president used their early political capital to pass a sweeping economic package. The other signed a stack of executive orders, many of which are already being challenged or struck down.

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Mac9192 said:

Haha. Good one @Th0r. The mere fact you're touting Biden is quite comical. You did an ok job "looking" unbiased for a little bit, but the mask is off. Any rational person knows he made NO decisions related to the country. The Rescue Plan? If that had any positive impact, it was negated due to the gas prices that skyrocketed faster than Biden could mumble "pass me more cocoa puffs."

Prices were roughly $2.20 a gallon in December 2020, which was about the yearly average. By April of 2021, it was $2.86 a gallon.

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Dattier said:

Are you able to refute any of it?

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Mac9192 said:

What’s amazing is I think you really believe what you typed.

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Mac9192 said:

What’s amazing is I think you really believe what you typed.

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Th0r said:

If you’re comparing Trump and Biden’s first 100 days, the contrast is pretty sharp. Biden passed the American Rescue Plan, real legislation that delivered direct relief, expanded the child tax credit, funded public health efforts, and helped stabilize the economy. It took negotiation, votes in Congress, and it lasts because it’s written into law.

Trump, so far, has passed zero major legislation. Instead, he’s relied almost entirely on executive orders that can be tossed out by courts or reversed by the next administration. They’re easy to sign, but they don’t carry the weight or staying power of real law. At this point, it seems like he’s more interested in performative theater than actually governing.

So if you compare what each administration actually got done in the first 100 days, the Biden administration accomplished significantly more, and it is not even close.

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