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KDSTONE said:
I hate to break it to you, but we’re not students in your shitty little classroom. No one here answers to you.
Take it down a notch, Professor
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Which is it? Am I having delusions of grandeur because I tell you I’m taking you to school, or am I taking you to school?

All you have is claiming the context excuses you from doing your due diligence to avoid spreading misinformation.

And lol, you answer to me every single time.
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KDSTONE said:
Selection of an impartial jury will always be a challenge in a case like this. Prior to tv and social media, the jury in this case would likely be over populated by illiterates who didn’t read the papers or liars who claimed they knew nothing about it. In this case, it’s highly doubtful that any of the jurors hadn’t predetermined his guilt, but given the overwhelming evidence, we’ll just have to live with it.
Given that he’s not a citizen, one could argue that he was lucky to receive the same protections granted to the rest of us by the US Constitution in the first place
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The first part is irrelevant to my question

And holy mackerel, no, not at all on the last part, and SCOTUS has consistently upheld this. The Constitution specifies people, not citizens. They are rights, not privileges. He wasn’t lucky in the slightest to receive rights we extend to all people. You’re basically saying he’s lucky he wasn’t lynched, which is MLing disgusting.
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Devilinside said:
The only surprise for me was that Murphy only had 3 interceptions. He telegraphed virtually every pass he threw. Everyone watching the game (including Va Tech) knew where the ball was going. Not only does Murphy stare down his receivers, he regularly tries to fit the ball in to receivers who are closely covered. I did not once see him try to get the ball to secondary receivers, or even look for them. Aside from two long passes on blown coverages to start the game, Murphy was unspectacular and was the main reason the game was so close. That we have no running game is attributal to the fact that Murphy cannot/won't run. Our O-line must exert so much effort to protect Murphy, that it cannot sustain run blocking on a consistent basis. Other than those things, we looked great.😉

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I have to believe that Diaz is going to be looking for an upgrade at QB through the transfer portal, as he does not appear to be a fan of either Loftis or Belin.
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smashmouth5 said:
I have absolutely written grants, successfully by the way. They were to get things like technology in the hands of underserved children. Did the media, whose job it is, vet the laptop story? Did they vet the very fine people hoax? Did they vet the bloodbath hoax? Did they vet the Chaney hoax? Did you take those stories at face value, did you take the media's word for it. It is impossible to vet all information that is out there. Sometimes you have to put trust in those you believe in. I'm sure you have no problem swallowing the tripe that is fed you. It is proven on a daily basis on this board.
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Sheer whataboutism. Stick to the story at hand. I can guarantee you that I’ll be saying the same things and asking the same questions about numerous pieces of nonsense y’all post here mindlessly over the next 4 years and you’ll be ducking it by referring to the same examples from his first term.
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KDSTONE said:
Delusions of grandeur. We’ll add that to the growing number of tell tale signs that you are an unstable dude
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Which is it? Am I unstable for using the term “cis” sincerely, or because I did so to successfully troll you? I’d even told y’all the first time I did it with the reference to drag story hour.

When it comes to you, kd, pointing out that I run circles around you intellectually is bragging about being mediocre.
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Dattier said:
What are you talking about? I conceded the election, and said so here, before VP Harris did. I'm very aware that the Democratic Party is out of touch with the average American and has been so since at least 2016, the 2020 Presidential win being more circumstantial than evidence to the contrary. You keep trying to tie my positions here to the current political prospects of the Democratic Party in a lazy attempt to dismiss what I say without dealing with it substantively.

I'd slow clap for your acknowledgement that the GOP isn't much better, but you conveniently don't elaborate, so it's really just a façade of being fair and balanced in any way. I'm afraid you're really saying that MAGA is the answer to the GOP's problems, and I submit that it's actually the cause. The GOP's surrender to a narcissist conman is the end of any claim to moral high ground or family values. Like Biden in 2020, Trump has ridden circumstances to victory and power. That is all the GOP stands for, and it's all they have.

You continue to show that you don't understand the distinction between disagreement and character. Repeatedly, you state that no one could possibly disagree with you unless they are foolish, incompetent, dishonest, or/and evil.
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Trump’s MAGA plan, is the answer. You can cry and say I call you names because you don’t see things my way. Well, it’s true. The last 4 plus years have been awful. Sorry, but anyone with half a brain knows it. From pawning off an old man with obvious cognitive decline since 2020, to pushing out a candidate even worse than him, and everything in between. Man, this is undeniable.
Your media is full of liars and defenders of the corrupt system. And I’ll continue to call you out for not seeing it. It’s as obvious as anything has ever been.
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it was a win. it wasnt pretty but this team has grit. Murphy had a rough first half with the interceptions but oh my those long passes. i dont understand our run game. we havent been able to run up the middle all year but until the 4th quarter thats all that brewer called. that keeps putting pressure on the passing game. we dont have the road grinder nfl type lineman that we have had recently and it shows. this being said we only had 5 O-lineman available for spring practice and we started the season behind the 8ball. we have the potential of 10 guys off this years roster back so that will be a huge change for us going into next year.
it is kind of hard to believe the we had 8 sacks (even without VA JR) and 14 tfl but STILL gave up over 400 yds of offense to tech. add in the 4 turnovers and the fact that we won is WOW.
really bad crowd turn out but it is thanksgiving break so no kids on campus. shows we still have work to do on getting Durham behind us.
hope the recruits enjoyed seeing that even when we are not crisp we are still competitive which is a change for us.
LET'S BEAT WAKE AND SWEEP THE STATE!!!!
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christophero said:
Kansas has that Flory big man we were recruiting at one point. He's the back up to Dickerson.
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But he doesn’t worry me against Brown like Dickerson does . Flory can rebound so I’m sure that’s key these last couple of days and controlling turnovers . Kansas wants to run . Stopping them in transition is another key .
Harris doesn’t score much but is a defender . This is probably a game where Self tells his team to let Flag get his and protect the perimeter.
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That has to be the slowest, most error filled game I've seen at the collegiate level for many years, and I'm very satisfied with the result. It was very much like what I picture making sausage looks like.:)

And then, with BC punishing the Cheaters and seeing Midnight Mike go down to a sub .500 Auburn team, the day ended perfectly.
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Dattier said:
This is a Tweet by the agency the owner of Twitter leads, citing an article from the proudly extremist Heritage Foundation. In and of itself, that does not invalidate it. Repeating for those in the back: IN AND OF ITSELF, THAT DOES NOT INVALIDATE IT. It does warrant skepticism and looking into it further.

What have you done to vet this information in any way, shape, or form? Have you ever written or read a grant? They're loooooong and detailed and precise and so, so tedious. And that tweet summarizes each of 3 cherry-picked grants in less than a sentence each. I get how convenient it is for your consumption. I do that, too. What I don't do, though, is run w/ that info as is w/o looking at other sources, considering context, and applying critical thinking skills. I repeat, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO VET THIS INFORMATION IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM? Thank you in advance for your thoughtful response.
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I have absolutely written grants, successfully by the way. They were to get things like technology in the hands of underserved children. Did the media, whose job it is, vet the laptop story? Did they vet the very fine people hoax? Did they vet the bloodbath hoax? Did they vet the Chaney hoax? Did you take those stories at face value, did you take the media's word for it. It is impossible to vet all information that is out there. Sometimes you have to put trust in those you believe in. I'm sure you have no problem swallowing the tripe that is fed you. It is proven on a daily basis on this board.
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Dattier said:
This is a Tweet by the agency the owner of Twitter leads, citing an article from the proudly extremist Heritage Foundation. In and of itself, that does not invalidate it. Repeating for those in the back: IN AND OF ITSELF, THAT DOES NOT INVALIDATE IT. It does warrant skepticism and looking into it further.

What have you done to vet this information in any way, shape, or form? Have you ever written or read a grant? They're loooooong and detailed and precise and so, so tedious. And that tweet summarizes each of 3 cherry-picked grants in less than a sentence each. I get how convenient it is for your consumption. I do that, too. What I don't do, though, is run w/ that info as is w/o looking at other sources, considering context, and applying critical thinking skills. I repeat, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO VET THIS INFORMATION IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM? Thank you in advance for your thoughtful response.
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I hate to break it to you, but we’re not students in your shitty little classroom. No one here answers to you.
Take it down a notch, Professor
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Dattier said:
The original headline and the rewrite are both awful. They are clickbait for their base and they are trolling the opposition.

It is also, however, a result of what Fox News has wrought.

More to the point, did Jose Ibarra deserve the presumption of innocence and a fair trial? It's yes or no. It's not a gotcha question. I'm not asking you whether he received both of those things or not; I'm asking you whether he was rightfully entitled to them.

I would similarly ask MSNBC, besides suspicion they had from the beginning of the trial, what evidence do they have that the trial was anything but fair?
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Selection of an impartial jury will always be a challenge in a case like this. Prior to tv and social media, the jury in this case would likely be over populated by illiterates who didn’t read the papers or liars who claimed they knew nothing about it. In this case, it’s highly doubtful that any of the jurors hadn’t predetermined his guilt, but given the overwhelming evidence, we’ll just have to live with it.
Given that he’s not a citizen, one could argue that he was lucky to receive the same protections granted to the rest of us by the US Constitution in the first place
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smashmouth5 said:
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The original headline and the rewrite are both awful. They are clickbait for their base and they are trolling the opposition.

It is also, however, a result of what Fox News has wrought.

More to the point, did Jose Ibarra deserve the presumption of innocence and a fair trial? It's yes or no. It's not a gotcha question. I'm not asking you whether he received both of those things or not; I'm asking you whether he was rightfully entitled to them.

I would similarly ask MSNBC, besides suspicion they had from the beginning of the trial, what evidence do they have that the trial was anything but fair?
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smashmouth5 said:
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This is a Tweet by the agency the owner of Twitter leads, citing an article from the proudly extremist Heritage Foundation. In and of itself, that does not invalidate it. Repeating for those in the back: IN AND OF ITSELF, THAT DOES NOT INVALIDATE IT. It does warrant skepticism and looking into it further.

What have you done to vet this information in any way, shape, or form? Have you ever written or read a grant? They're loooooong and detailed and precise and so, so tedious. And that tweet summarizes each of 3 cherry-picked grants in less than a sentence each. I get how convenient it is for your consumption. I do that, too. What I don't do, though, is run w/ that info as is w/o looking at other sources, considering context, and applying critical thinking skills. I repeat, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO VET THIS INFORMATION IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM? Thank you in advance for your thoughtful response.
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The only surprise for me was that Murphy only had 3 interceptions. He telegraphed virtually every pass he threw. Everyone watching the game (including Va Tech) knew where the ball was going. Not only does Murphy stare down his receivers, he regularly tries to fit the ball in to receivers who are closely covered. I did not once see him try to get the ball to secondary receivers, or even look for them. Aside from two long passes on blown coverages to start the game, Murphy was unspectacular and was the main reason the game was so close. That we have no running game is attributal to the fact that Murphy cannot/won't run. Our O-line must exert so much effort to protect Murphy, that it cannot sustain run blocking on a consistent basis. Other than those things, we looked great.😉

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Mac9192 said:
I’ll give you credit, you’re resilient. Foolish, but resilient. You’re stating what one politician says about another. We all know the Democratic Party right now is toast, but the Republican Party isn’t much better. It’s Trump’s (MAGA) Party. And the American people let it be known a few weeks ago. You just refuse to accept it.
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What are you talking about? I conceded the election, and said so here, before VP Harris did. I'm very aware that the Democratic Party is out of touch with the average American and has been so since at least 2016, the 2020 Presidential win being more circumstantial than evidence to the contrary. You keep trying to tie my positions here to the current political prospects of the Democratic Party in a lazy attempt to dismiss what I say without dealing with it substantively.

I'd slow clap for your acknowledgement that the GOP isn't much better, but you conveniently don't elaborate, so it's really just a façade of being fair and balanced in any way. I'm afraid you're really saying that MAGA is the answer to the GOP's problems, and I submit that it's actually the cause. The GOP's surrender to a narcissist conman is the end of any claim to moral high ground or family values. Like Biden in 2020, Trump has ridden circumstances to victory and power. That is all the GOP stands for, and it's all they have.

You continue to show that you don't understand the distinction between disagreement and character. Repeatedly, you state that no one could possibly disagree with you unless they are foolish, incompetent, dishonest, or/and evil.
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GhostOf301 said:
You're not wrong. But I would bet my left nut with a tranny that even without the timing of the allegations, no matter who he nominated would be accused of sexual assault or misconduct of some sort. But to your point, without absolute certainty that they are innocent, it is a questionable decision to nominate folks with those allegations over them.
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My point is also that in part because these allegations pre-existed their nominations, there is nothing remotely suspicious about their coming to light now. Even the most right-wing honest** journalist would uncover them.

Find an example of allegations popping out for the first time after the fact, like Christine Blasey Ford's accusations against now Justice Kavanaugh, and you'll have earned a trip to the free throw line. You'd still have to hit at least one free throw to have a point. (And for the record, Blasey Ford's accusations were not proven false on the basis of a GOP-controlled Senate holding a hearing -- not a trial -- where they voted in lockstep to confirm.) I'd empathize with your suspicion, though I would not at that point concede your likely conclusion stated in the last sentence of the parenthetical below.

(**Having personal bias, left or right, does not exclude journalists from being honest. Fox News, for example, eventually conceded that President Trump lost the 2020 election fair and square. Plenty of media are able to put aside personal bias to report facts and plenty who still reveal some bias in their reporting nonetheless operate in good faith and do credible work. Y'all are the ones who throw out the baby with the bathwater when you have the slightest dislike of journalism you thereafter call "msm" and "fake news," not me.)
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