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Dattier · Nov 1, 2024

GhostOf301 said:
You don't want your kid drinking alcohol at 14 so no one else's kids should be able to. You don't want your kid to be able to purchase cigarettes at 11, so no one else's kids should be able to. You don't want you 12 year old getting tattoos, so no one else's kid should be able to. There are things that society and government has agreed should be off limits to children. I don't think it was that long ago that books with explicit content, like sucking dick, would be in that category. But here we are. You freaks have to normalize this shit.

False equivalency. We're talking about intellectual content, not ingested substances.

You still haven't answered about the other titles I listed: The Kite Runner, Oedipus Rex, Romeo & Juliet, Othello, The Absolutely True Diary of a Part-Time Indian, Judy Blum. I'll add a few more: 1984, Catcher in the Rye, Diary of Anne Frank, All Quiet on the Western Front, Hamlet, MacBeth, Twelfth Night, Night, Julie of the Wolves... All of those books have troubling content, many of which relate to sex.

You still haven't suggested any steps to any process for determining a book's appropriateness. As far as I can tell, an angry mob of keyboard warriors or an 11-year-old activist being videotaped reading to the school board should result in kneejerk decisions without knowing anything else about the book.

GhostOf301 · Nov 1, 2024

Dattier said:
You're projecting pedophilia onto her dad. She introduced him lovingly at the DNC. Let me guess... Stockholm Syndrome?
Do we have any confirmation of how old she actually was? Like, 8? 8 would be an age she would remember, but it isn't pubescent. 14? Pubescent and imo, highly inappropriate. I would think bathing with your kids of any gender would be a bit weird after... 5? 6? IDK.

What's with intervening into how other people parent? You don't want your kid reading a certain book so no one's kid should be able to get it from a school or public library? Years of consultation with parents and doctors, but your kneejerk reaction about gender-affirming care is more important? Attributing it to pedophilia instead of just weirdness if a parent showers with their own child past the arbitrary age you decide is appropriate? Yet somehow if the issue was spanking a kid, suddenly y'all are all about letting parents parent how they see fit.

You don't want your kid drinking alcohol at 14 so no one else's kids should be able to. You don't want your kid to be able to purchase cigarettes at 11, so no one else's kids should be able to. You don't want you 12 year old getting tattoos, so no one else's kid should be able to. There are things that society and government has agreed should be off limits to children. I don't think it was that long ago that books with explicit content, like sucking dick, would be in that category. But here we are. You freaks have to normalize this shit.

Dattier · Nov 1, 2024

KDSTONE said:
Well, personally both are horrific. But if I had to choose, I’d rather have someone steal my diary than have to take showers with my pedo Dad. How do you know what she’s more concerned with anyway? Project much?
Again, yet another way you’re either trying to minimize or even normalize Joe’s creepy behavior.

You're projecting pedophilia onto her dad. She introduced him lovingly at the DNC. Let me guess... Stockholm Syndrome?
Do we have any confirmation of how old she actually was? Like, 8? 8 would be an age she would remember, but it isn't pubescent. 14? Pubescent and imo, highly inappropriate. I would think bathing with your kids of any gender would be a bit weird after... 5? 6? IDK.

What's with intervening into how other people parent? You don't want your kid reading a certain book so no one's kid should be able to get it from a school or public library? Years of consultation with parents and doctors, but your kneejerk reaction about gender-affirming care is more important? Attributing it to pedophilia instead of just weirdness if a parent showers with their own child past the arbitrary age you decide is appropriate? Yet somehow if the issue was spanking a kid, suddenly y'all are all about letting parents parent how they see fit.

KDSTONE · Nov 1, 2024

Dattier said:
No, it hinges on whether the governor can do so via executive order in the 90-day "quiet period" before an election. Do you think something so consequential should be left to whoever happens to be the governor at the time? Or should it require actual legislation?

Do you have any actual principles, or is it just, "If a Republican does it, great; if a Democrat does it, bad"?

Ideally, the removals wouldn’t occur this close to an election. I’ll grant you that. But, it’s better than noncitizens voting. We already have too many citizens voting that shouldn’t be allowed to

KDSTONE · Nov 1, 2024

Dattier said:
No, it hinges on whether the governor can do so via executive order in the 90-day "quiet period" before an election. Do you think something so consequential should be left to whoever happens to be the governor at the time? Or should it require actual legislation?

So the alternative is to allow noncitizens to continue to vote, which, when you strip away all of your mumbo jumbo, is exactly what you want.
Do you think something so consequential should be left in the hands of noncitizens and dead people ?

KDSTONE · Nov 1, 2024

Dattier said:
No, it hinges on whether the governor can do so via executive order in the 90-day "quiet period" before an election. Do you think something so consequential should be left to whoever happens to be the governor at the time? Or should it require actual legislation?

If noncitizens are on the voter rolls, they should be removed. The governor should have that power. If Democratic governors in the future want to remove noncitizens and dead people from the rolls, I fully support that. There’s already legislation to prevent noncitizens from voting. As for how to remove them, it should be immediate. “ Immediate” is not the legislature’s forte

KDSTONE · Nov 1, 2024

Dattier said:
Actually, if you take it up with her, now that she's an adult, you'll find that she is more concerned with the theft of her diary than with whatever her dad did.

Well, personally both are horrific. But if I had to choose, I’d rather have someone steal my diary than have to take showers with my pedo Dad. How do you know what she’s more concerned with anyway? Project much?
Again, yet another way you’re either trying to minimize or even normalize Joe’s creepy behavior.

Dattier · Nov 1, 2024

KDSTONE said:
Are you serious with this nonsense? The Doj’s argument hinges on the fact that the removals from the voter rolls “ disproportionately affected minorities” as if noncitizens weren’t disproportionately minorities in the first place.

No, it hinges on whether the governor can do so via executive order in the 90-day "quiet period" before an election. Do you think something so consequential should be left to whoever happens to be the governor at the time? Or should it require actual legislation?

Do you have any actual principles, or is it just, "If a Republican does it, great; if a Democrat does it, bad"?

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