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Let's go Duke!! Let's get this season off on a big note!!

OFC

I'll say it again, but Trump (a man with many flaws) is the best option as President. It's a fact. F%*@ your feelings. Everyone else is either part of the DC elite, bought and owned, or doesn't have the balls to be the true leader our country desperately needs. And if you think Kamala is the answer, you're retarded. I'm looking at two of our resident idiots on this thread.

The other thing that must happen is the media has to be blown up, and then rebuilt. They are corrupt to the core. Everything is about $$, and they can't be fair because of who makes big time donations to them. Again, if you don't see this, you're too stupid, and shouldn't be allowed to vote.

timo0402 said:

2021- the border is secure, we’ve been to the border.
2022- the border is secure, there is no problem at the border
2023- the border is secure
2024- the border isn’t secure and it’s trumps fault.

So which is it? The lie that the border was secure? That she went to the border? Or it’s Trumps fault for not securing the border bc he allegedly told “pubs” to not vote for a bill?

The truth is actually that this admin, Biden-Harris, blew the border wide open. Illegals pour in, drugs, child trafficking, gangs, etc. for years, but it’s Trumps fault.

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It's just like them parading around the country bragging about how good the economy has been because of bidennomics. People say, it was better under Trump. They say, shut up, jack. Look at the data. The economy is actually better under Biden. Oh, but our cost of living is higher now than it was then. 'That’s not what the data shows.' Now this lying fraud acknowledges that costs are high and people are struggling. But blames it on Trump or greedy grocery stores and promises to fix it.

SDevada said:

So the fact that she was willing to engage in a compromise to get much needed legislation after the Pubs threatened to hold the budget hostage makes her a liar? Of course there is the issue that the Pubs got pretty much everything they wanted and still wouldn't vote for the bill because it would make it harder for Trump to get elected. But back to Harris, I believe what she did was engage in the politics of running the country, which calls for compromise. So it actually makes her a patriot and a good legislator.

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2021- the border is secure, we’ve been to the border.
2022- the border is secure, there is no problem at the border
2023- the border is secure
2024- the border isn’t secure and it’s trumps fault.

So which is it? The lie that the border was secure? That she went to the border? Or it’s Trumps fault for not securing the border bc he allegedly told “pubs” to not vote for a bill?

The truth is actually that this admin, Biden-Harris, blew the border wide open. Illegals pour in, drugs, child trafficking, gangs, etc. for years, but it’s Trumps fault.

Will you watch?

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SDevada said:

The problem with your posts is how often they are full of ridiculous and/or uninformed statements. There was a migration issue during the Trump administration. Remember the caravans? Trump actually let a greater percentage of people into this country than Biden. These problems don't go away because we close down our borders. We simply engage in cruelty and shift the problem. To address it correctly, we need pols who will engage with leaders in other countries to make some attempts to address the root causes for people leaving. Some of those decisions are attributable to which party the migrants think will be more receptive but most of it is from issues of dictatorship, repression and lack of an economy in those other countries. Just shouting build a wall does nothing to deal with those problems.

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This is where you're showing your inability to be a free thinker. You're repeating the lies and doing so as if you actually believe them. Trump worked directly with leaders of these countries. He just did so with language you delicate flakes can't respect. He had the Mexican government better maintain their southern border, held them accountable for allowing the caravans to migrate to the U.S. by keeping them in Mexico during the asylum process and allowed the border patrol to actually do their job. You just buy into everything your lords sell you and try to make it as though we can't see things with our own eyes. You want to use percentage of people as a measurement. The percentage under Trump was close to on par with Obama. Though Obama deported more, oddly enough. Except for 2019 when the percentage was lower, for whatever reason. But. Border crossings have been four to five times higher under Biden than they were under Trump. So is a percentage based mark really fair?

The vast majority of people migrating to the U.S. is not asylum seeking, or escaping violence. It is for economic reasons. Which I absolutely do not fault anyone for. There is a reason why the majority of them attempt to get into the country without getting caught and then using asylum as their reason. They know they don't qualify for asylum.

Wow. This lady lives in a pretend world.

SDevada said:

yes they are.

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Prove it. Because it specifically says American citizens excluded.

Dattier said:

Where's the lie?

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The lie is saying she hasn’t flip flopped on her positions just to sound moderate. So then the fact is she’s either 100% flip flopped or wait for it, she’s blatantly lying.

SDevada said:

Not exactly. The Oregon initiative is through a private company and you have to be a legal resident to apply. It is also open to uS Citizens. As for California, you have to be able to provide either an SS number or TIN and show that you have paid taxes, which means that really only the Dreamers will be able to apply.

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Not exactly, lol. 😂

SDevada said:

Not exactly. The Oregon initiative is through a private company and you have to be a legal resident to apply. It is also open to uS Citizens. As for California, you have to be able to provide either an SS number or TIN and show that you have paid taxes, which means that really only the Dreamers will be able to apply.

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Okay, are these available for U.S. born citizens?

Nice way of ignoring the rest.

timo0402 said:

Sure did. Thought it was a weak sauce attempt to spin this as her efforts at bipartisanship without just owning it. Placing blame back on the other side. It was a partisan piece written by a partisan producer doing his job.

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Where's the lie?

SDevada said:

One more point of correction. Harris was never the “border czar,” or put in charge of border security or halting illegal border crossings, as former President Donald Trump, Republicans and even the occasional media outlet have claimed. Instead, she was tasked in March 2021 with tackling the “root causes” of migration from the Northern Triangle and pushing its leaders — along with Mexico’s — to enforce immigration laws.

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Problem with this narrative, and one the msm has been working overtime to erase articles from 2021-23 in which they repeatedly called her the border czar, is not the term border czar, but the fact that in March of 2021, Biden tasked her with this role, and since then we’ve had record numbers of illegals pouring across our borders. Check out what is going on in Colorado right now as just the latest example. The point continues to be two fold- 1. If she was so good at this why was it so disastrous? And 2. She can blame Trump and the other side till the cows come home, but the point remains true, their administration reversed all of his border policies on day one, via executive action, and now are crying that the other side is the problem. They created the problem. They take zero responsibility for creating the problem but yet tell you they’ll fix it on day one. It’s a load of horse manure and people aren’t buying it. You can try and cover it up with as much joy and joyfulness as you want, but it’s putting lipstick on a 10-15M lb pig.

The root cause of the current migrant crisis was this administration taking over power. Announcing immediately that they were ending the remain in Mexico policy, returning to catch and release and put a freeze on deportations. Remember when it began and thousands and thousands of people were illegally entering our country, the MSM would send reporters to areas that weren't being overrun by migrants so they could show us that the whole idea of a migrant crisis was just a republican boogeyman? Then they acknowledged it was a crisis and blamed in on Trump. Now they just don't care. Oregon says they are going to give illegal immigrants $30,000 to buy a house. California says, hold my beer Oregon, we're going to give them $150,000. What a kick in the balls to hard working low and lower middle class Americans.

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SDevada said:

One more point of correction. Harris was never the “border czar,” or put in charge of border security or halting illegal border crossings, as former President Donald Trump, Republicans and even the occasional media outlet have claimed. Instead, she was tasked in March 2021 with tackling the “root causes” of migration from the Northern Triangle and pushing its leaders — along with Mexico’s — to enforce immigration laws.

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The “ root causes” are they live in poor, corrupt sh holes. How long did it take for Kamala to put the pieces together?
Our govt’s primary job is to protect its people. Properly vetting those entering our country is a primary function; helping those in other countries is secondary if not a luxury that we can’t achieve or afford

SDevada said:

Did you read the article?

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Sure did. Thought it was a weak sauce attempt to spin this as her efforts at bipartisanship without just owning it. Placing blame back on the other side. It was a partisan piece written by a partisan producer doing his job.

timo0402 said:

mental gymnastics word salad

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Such salads do indeed exist, but sometimes clearly stated things are nevertheless complicated and whether by ability or choice, some people just can't keep up.

I haven't read or watched MSNBC in some time until that article. It provides context around VP Harris' alleged "support" for a border wall. Generally speaking, MSNBC and its dumber cousin Fox News don't lie about numbers and facts; they manipulate things around the facts. I'd be interested in a conservative rebuttal of what it says, but I suspect they'll decline to read it, dismiss it, and keep claiming VP Harris supports a border wall for the next 8 years, through both of her terms in the White House.

Mac9192 said:

I know about every right wing person has been picking on Kamala for her comments about going to work on Day One to fix the issues/problems we face. It's so basic but true that she's been there for almost four years, and is part of the administration that has not 'fixed' these issues.

How dumb are you to roar in approval when this windbag says these things. The left is so brazen, and their followers so stupid.

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But they want the things she says to be true. Isn’t everyone entitled to their own truth?
Not only have they not fixed the issues, they created them in the first place especially inflation and the border fiasco. Although the border looks great to them. It doesn’t matter how disastrous your policies are, you can just import more sheep.

I know about every right wing person has been picking on Kamala for her comments about going to work on Day One to fix the issues/problems we face. It's so basic but true that she's been there for almost four years, and is part of the administration that has not 'fixed' these issues.

How dumb are you to roar in approval when this windbag says these things. The left is so brazen, and their followers so stupid.

MSDNC lol

SDevada said:

As the GOP targets Harris’ border wall stance, the details matter

Several Republicans apparently want voters to believe that Kamala Harris now supports investing in a border wall, but that’s not quite right.

www.msnbc.com

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Ahhh yes, Steve, a down the middle producer of the RACHEL MADOW SHOW, doing Harris’s dirty work for her with some mental gymnastics word salad. All this to say, she now supports and will fund a racist border wall. She’s really tough on crime, as the border czar, so it makes sense she wants a wall to be built.