"Why Duke, Kansas, and Tennessee Aren't in My Top 25"

[hallside]

This guy is a real piece of work. Basically an MSU homer journalist that has a ballot in the AP Rankings. Pretty surprised a guy like this even has the credentials after reading that garbage. He stated he's created a rule for himself, in which teams that have not played a true road game will not appear on his ballot. Wow. Who does he have on there the first couple weeks? Stetson? UAlbany? FGCU?

It's crazy how much people hate Duke, including the media. They try to hide it but it's obvious. This guys has turned it into his job. He and Seth Greenberg would be best pals.

https://www.lansingstatejournal.com...-duke-kansas-tennessee-didnt-make/2264942002/

 

[DukeDenver]

Just another person trying to get famous with “shocking” content. Pay no mind.

 

[skysdad]

Scratching my head a little on this one. Don't think anyone pays much attention to him even though he's getting some attention here including me. His must go to thr and reads guru gary 7's post. They seem to be on the same level. OFC

 

[dukephysics]

Just stupid. There are people in physics who do "creative" things like this - they're called "hacks."
It would be pretty easy to create a metric that measures your ballot against the consensus. If your ballot is too different, it doesn't count. That's pretty standard stuff.
Wins against the top 25 are pretty nice on a resume. Should all teams without one be disqualified? How about road wins against the top 25?
He's an idiot who is just trying to get people to look at him. He knows damn well that eventually everyone will play a true road game, so his disqualification is ultimately meaningless.

 

[jwill133]

Fortunately we own MSU in just about everything college basketball wise. Who cares what they think. I'm sure were gonna beat them out for Isaiah Stewart also.

 

[PatrickYates]

I love how critics scream about how some teams won't play true road games. No one in the nation wants Duke or KU to visit this year. No one. Not the Zags, not nobody. And that is something that is an annual possibility. Teams are keen for Duke to come to their house, theoretically. But few are willing to do home and away. No one wants to go to CIS, or Phog Allen. They might get obliterated on national TV.
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Teams complain about Duke not playing any road games in years where we are a little weaker. Ask MSU's coach if he wants to see RJ and Zion on MSU's home court this year.

 

[HonkeyT]

I wonder if he will rank us after we win the title, along with smashing MSU on the way?

 

[jwill133]

Last I checked...the NCAA tourney is played at neutral sites. I'd much rather play as many games as possible at NBA arena's...Indy, MSG, United Center, etc.
There's a reason K schedules the way he does.
The road environments that Duke has to play in are tougher environments than any other team in the country, that writer is an absolute idiot.

 

[skysdad]

Last I checked...the NCAA tourney is played at neutral sites. I'd much rather play as many games as possible at NBA arena's...Indy, MSG, United Center, etc.
There's a reason K schedules the way he does.
The road environments that Duke has to play in are tougher environments than any other team in the country, that writer is an absolute idiot.

Dead on jwill. OFC

 

[LTDukeFan]

This guy is bizarro. Trying to optimize on the wrong variable.

 

[kwyjibos13]

Plus, most teams who do play us want to move off campus. More money?

 

[lyonhawk]

Last I checked...the NCAA tourney is played at neutral sites. I'd much rather play as many games as possible at NBA arena's...Indy, MSG, United Center, etc.
There's a reason K schedules the way he does.
The road environments that Duke has to play in are tougher environments than any other team in the country, that writer is an absolute idiot.

Exactly right. We don't play tourney games at opponent's gyms. Big time neutral site games are better prep for the tourney than non-conf road games. They're also a better recruiting tool and showcase of the program.

 

[FearTheBeard]

You can’t fix stupid.

 

[DeepColor]

Scratching my head a little on this one. Don't think anyone pays much attention to him even though he's getting some attention here including me. His must go to thr and reads guru gary 7's post. They seem to be on the same level. OFC

In Guru Gary’s poll has UNC on top and “Blue Steel” just outside the Top 25 at # 27.

 

[OldasdirtDevil]

A clickbait seeking incompetent hack. But worse than that, he is a clickbait incompetent hack that's not performing his duties properly as it comes to casting ballots for the top 25 teams.

The job description is picking the 25 best teams in college ball. That qualifier doesn't give a damn whether you don't like the team colors, hate the coach, lust over their cheerleaders, or even if they're a bunch of cheating mofos like UNC. The Top 25 teams, that's it. Anything less, and you're not doing the job correctly. And he's not.

OFC

 

[DukefanKY]

I am not even going to read the article.
The title gives me all the info I need to make an informed decision that this guy is an idiot and not worth the time

 

[DukeRulesBasketball]

This guy is an absolute clown!! Still salty over us getting Big Vernon I guess!

 

[TheDude1]

Moron.

 

[Quavarius]

What’s so crazy is his MSU team plays lots of true road games and have only won one—1—title since 2000. Duke has 3. Yes, triple the amount his favorite team has that love playing true road games.

I guess those true road games didn’t prepare MSU as much for the NCAA Championship, huh?

 

[jnastasi]

Journalism keeps improving year by year.

 

[FearTheBeard]

Journalism keeps improving year by year.

Whoa! Whoa! Whoa!

Let’s not go around throwing the term ‘journalism’ that loosely.

 

[FearTheBeard]

His top 25:

https://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/pollster/graham-couch/2018/week-6

This guy needs his credentials yanked.

 

[OldasdirtDevil]

His top 25:

https://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/pollster/graham-couch/2018/week-6

This guy needs his credentials yanked.

Yeah, FTB, and looks like he has a fetish for USF Dons. I mean he talks about playing true road games, and the only team of note they've played is Buffalo...in Northern Ireland. That might be a long 'road' to get there, but that's just a neutral site...and they lost.

Kenpom has them at the 52nd position, while he's got them in the 21st slot. And take a look at their strength of schedule, #259 on Kenpom.
Maybe he knows something we don't, but I'm not making any wagers on it.

OFC

 

[jnastasi]

Whoa! Whoa! Whoa!

Let’s not go around throwing the term ‘journalism’ that loosely.

Haha touché. Let me rephrase, a 25 year old nerd sitting behind his computer, punching keys on his board, giggling to himself like a school girl about how his thought process is on a higher level than most.

 

[DukefanKY]

He has Furman ranked and Duke is not.....that's all you need to see

 

[bmbritt]

This guy is a real piece of work. Basically an MSU homer journalist that has a ballot in the AP Rankings. Pretty surprised a guy like this even has the credentials after reading that garbage. He stated he's created a rule for himself, in which teams that have not played a true road game will not appear on his ballot. Wow. Who does he have on there the first couple weeks? Stetson? UAlbany? FGCU?

It's crazy how much people hate Duke, including the media. They try to hide it but it's obvious. This guys has turned it into his job. He and Seth Greenberg would be best pals.

https://www.lansingstatejournal.com...-duke-kansas-tennessee-didnt-make/2264942002/

He’s okay with ranking a team that had a doctor who raped half of the campus, but against ranking teams who beat MSU straight up like Kansas.

 

[hart2chesson]

Take that Couch!!!

https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...eft-kansas-duke-and-tennessee-off-his-ballot/

OFC

 

[dukiejay]

Gary Parrish pretty much said what everyone else already knows. There's really no rational basis whatsoever to this Couch guys claims. He's an idiot. The fact he has UNC fans in full agreement with him should tell you everything you need to know.

 

[DiehardDukeFan4Life]

Take that Couch!!!

https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...eft-kansas-duke-and-tennessee-off-his-ballot/

OFC

I read this article yesterday and he completely ripped Couch to shreds for the criteria that he uses to rank teams. I wonder where Couch will rank us once we play our first true road game on January 8th since we know that he’s not going to include us on his ballots until then.

 

[QC Dukie]

Gary Parrish pretty much said what everyone else already knows. There's really no rational basis whatsoever to this Couch guys claims. He's an idiot. The fact he has UNC fans in full agreement with him should tell you everything you need to know.

Well to be fair, the tarholes DID play at that powerhouse Wofford.

 

[BOOGIEMAN1914]

if @ wofford and @ elon is logical reasoning because ya know they count @ michigan because thats the ACC/B1G, id take a top team @ a neutral site all day, everyday...

 

[dukiejay]

As K ages and his accolades grow, it's getting harder and harder for people to legitimately attack him. This is one of those instances. I mean, seriously, the all-time winningest coach in college basketball history is afraid to play an OOC game on the road? Think about how ridiculous that sounds.

If fans want to give internet BJ's to Roy for traveling to Elon and Wofford that is fine. But no one....not one single person, can rightfully say that's tougher than playing Kentucky, Gonzaga, Auburn and Texas Tech on neutral courts in the span of 45 days. It's just not. As for preparing a team, those four games prepare you more than going to Elon and Wofford.

 

[timo0402]

As K ages and his accolades grow, it's getting harder and harder for people to legitimately attack him. This is one of those instances. I mean, seriously, the all-time winningest coach in college basketball history is afraid to play an OOC game on the road? Think about how ridiculous that sounds.

If fans want to give internet BJ's to Roy for traveling to Elon and Wofford that is fine. But no one....not one single person, can rightfully say that's tougher than playing Kentucky, Gonzaga, Auburn and Texas Tech on neutral courts in the span of 45 days. It's just not. As for preparing a team, those four games prepare you more than going to Elon and Wofford.

And to your point there were actually morons over there that claimed their victory over Wofford was a bigger deal. You can’t make that stuff up.

Their infatuation with this OOC Road game is beyond comical at this point. Why does it matter to you so much? Why are you so obsessed with it? Do you honestly (DSouth) believe that Duke loses in the tournament prior to the final four bc we didn’t schedule a game at UNC Greensboro?

Do ACC Road games not count or something? Do they not prepare you?

Did the game in Indy where UK had 90% of the crowd on their side not provide a learning experience?

When we play on the road in the ACC/BIG10 challenge why doesn’t that count? Bc we didn’t call up the other team and say “hey we really need to get this November OOC Road game schedule so that internet keyboard warriors don’t berate us”?

Why does it matter so much to them? If DSouth and company claim it helps so much when you reach the tourney wouldn’t you, i don’t know, not want us to play one?

It’s the petttttiest argument I’ve heard and it just makes me laugh.

 

[Shatterthesky22]

https://northcarolina.forums.rivals.com/threads/ap-voter-graham-couch.66729/

Here’s the article they’re referencing https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.lansingstatejournal.com/amp/2264942002

 

[LTDukeFan]

As K ages and his accolades grow, it's getting harder and harder for people to legitimately attack him. This is one of those instances. I mean, seriously, the all-time winningest coach in college basketball history is afraid to play an OOC game on the road? Think about how ridiculous that sounds.

If fans want to give internet BJ's to Roy for traveling to Elon and Wofford that is fine. But no one....not one single person, can rightfully say that's tougher than playing Kentucky, Gonzaga, Auburn and Texas Tech on neutral courts in the span of 45 days. It's just not. As for preparing a team, those four games prepare you more than going to Elon and Wofford.

The guy is pandering an audience. It is just a head scratcher unless you consider that he is now getting national coverage. I guess some people will indeed want to apprear to be d!psh!ts to get seen.

 

[LTDukeFan]

And to your point there were actually morons over there that claimed their victory over Wofford was a bigger deal. You can’t make that stuff up.

Their infatuation with this OOC Road game is beyond comical at this point. Why does it matter to you so much? Why are you so obsessed with it? Do you honestly (DSouth) believe that Duke loses in the tournament prior to the final four bc we didn’t schedule a game at UNC Greensboro?

Do ACC Road games not count or something? Do they not prepare you?

Did the game in Indy where UK had 90% of the crowd on their side not provide a learning experience?

When we play on the road in the ACC/BIG10 challenge why doesn’t that count? Bc we didn’t call up the other team and say “hey we really need to get this November OOC Road game schedule so that internet keyboard warriors don’t berate us”?

Why does it matter so much to them? If DSouth and company claim it helps so much when you reach the tourney wouldn’t you, i don’t know, not want us to play one?

It’s the petttttiest argument I’ve heard and it just makes me laugh.

Just wondering what the predominate colors of the fans were at the Wofford game -- Gold and Black or Baby Blue and White? Nothing strikes fear in a visiting team then when their fan base overwhelms a small venue....wine and cheese or whine and jeez?!

 

[timo0402]

The guy is pandering an audience. It is just a head scratcher unless you consider that he is now getting national coverage. I guess some people will indeed want to apprear to be d!psh!ts to get seen.

@dukehokie he might be onto something. Scrap this weeks topics and let’s just have five hot takes this week to create some buzz.

 

[PixelDevil]

I'm banned and don't feel like signing out just to go read it, what are they saying?

 

[timo0402]

https://northcarolina.forums.rivals.com/threads/ap-voter-graham-couch.66729/

Here’s the article they’re referencing https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.lansingstatejournal.com/amp/2264942002

They’re a special group. I’ll merge this with the thread we currently are discussing it.

 

[skysdad]

if @ wofford and @ elon is logical reasoning because ya know they count @ michigan because thats the ACC/B1G, id take a top team @ a neutral site all day, everyday...

Yeah but they played Wofford and Elon in hostile enviroments. OFC