DUKE IN THE NBA
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Boateng needed development along with Jamal B. Taylor was a completely different story. His issues were not pt or talent, it was him.Deng leaving and livingston going pro hurt. My memory is we still brought in great classes on paper. But guys like Paulus. Boateng?, Nelson, King etc did not live up to their rankings. And we had a bunch of transfers. We were usually a big man short, and TH just destroyed us up front. I remember Paulus was the USA Today player of the year in football and basketball. That is big time.
Dockery was a combo guard. Once JJ committed, it was determined Sean would play pg. He did not develop into a natural pg. He was a good lead guard. If he was the sg, then we may be having a different conversation. The reality is JJ was here.Dockery was a McDonald's All American. He was rated as one of the top 10 point guards in the country, and among the top 30 players overall. The sad reality is he's just one of several guys that came along during that stretch that just weren't as good as Duke needed them to be.
Agree about cadeau. He played fairly well against us but he doesn’t worry me as much. Reminds me of a shorter Kendall Marshall. The kid could only pass but the media loved him. Even my unc buddies were dumbfounded that Marshall decided to go pro early. Then, he was picked like 13th! I couldnt blame him but what the heck were gms thinking?this will be a real test of Hubert's coaching ability. Even if they get a big body, it won't be the usual inside-out style of play that the Cheaters love. They will find it tough to get rebounds to start the fast break. Their guards are small and I'm not sold on Cadeau. Good passer, not much else.
I'm not saying Hubert won't pull a rabbit out of his hat but this is not an intimidating team. I see Davis breaking all sorts of shooting and scoring records but not much else.
I do recall him being a McDonalds All American now, you are correct. I saw he was the 9th rated PG in his class and one would assume that’s a top 50 or so guy, must have been a heavy PG class! Rivals/247 don’t list actual rankings until 2003 so can’t tell his exact ranking.Dockery was a McDonald's All American. He was rated as one of the top 10 point guards in the country, and among the top 30 players overall. The sad reality is he's just one of several guys that came along during that stretch that just weren't as good as Duke needed them to be.
For sure a matchup to exploit but Flagg would also have to guard Jackson. This reminds me of when unc got bullock and unc fans thought they were going to dominate us because Nolan would be matched up with a 6’6” guard. It isn’t a 1 vs 1 game plus a matchup can go both ways during the course of a game.Chris do you think Ian Jackson can defend Cooper Flagg if they both play the 3? Flagg would have 4 inch height advantage. If I’m Duke I love that matchup.
Dockery was a McDonald's All American. He was rated as one of the top 10 point guards in the country, and among the top 30 players overall. The sad reality is he's just one of several guys that came along during that stretch that just weren't as good as Duke needed them to be.The 06 team IMO was very fools gold. We started out super hot and beat Texas in December by 40 in what was at the time #1 versus #2. But JJ was absolutely insanely scorching nets those first couple of months. McRoberts was solid, but we needed him to be transcendent. I believe at the time he was the highest rated recruit ever to Duke, which the ratings started around 01 I believe.
Once we got scouted (take away JJ and there’s not much else to worry about) we were doomed. We relied on a freshman PG Paulus which I do believe was a backup plan to what could have been a SO Sean Livingston. When your guards are Paulus and JJ, your perimeter defense is gonna be slow. Shelden could clean most of that up though.
I actually thought for Dockery being a 4 star recruit ranked in the 50s he had a pretty solid Duke career. His defensive mentality made sense next to JJ. And I never felt like he tried to do too much. Dockery also made a half court buzzer beater to beat VT his senior year. All in all, I wasn’t shocked when a very athletic LSU team beat us in the sweet 16. JJ needed to be “Redick-ulous” for us to make a run and he was just average.
Not many good options left.Odds are they will get a decent big or two. They really wanted Malik Brown.
32 - 4 05/06... Lost to an athletic team of LSU. Disappointing? Yes. We had no answer for their frontcourt. Did we struggle win wise...HELL NO!2005 and 2006 included JJ Redick and Sheldon Williams. There was no OAD’s from 2005-2009. Those years included experience players and we still struggled. Again, I’ll take OAD’s over that stretch!
Thanks Conor, and for the article as well.Wow, Beilenson has had a heckuva year out of the 'pen!!I think it'd take a lot of things going wrong for this team to not host a regional; their goal should be two more ACC series wins which would, I think, give them a shot at a top-8 seed.
Their RPI hurts them (22 going into tonight) but this was the game they needed to win to really boost it (ECU was 9). Win 2 of 3 at Georgia Tech this weekend (they're 46) and then 2 of 3 against UNC (they're 6) in the last series, I think that top-8 seed is a real possibility.
2005 and 2006 included JJ Redick and Sheldon Williams. There was no OAD’s from 2005-2009. Those years included experience players and we still struggled. Again, I’ll take OAD’s over that stretch!If you look at the 2005 - 2009 years, kids had to take time to be developed. I would go so far to say Coach K was picky with 90% of his recruits.
Chris do you think Ian Jackson can defend Cooper Flagg if they both play the 3? Flagg would have 4 inch height advantage. If I’m Duke I love that matchup.My guess is Cade is a stretch 4. Ian Jackson, a 6-5 5 star looked pretty good in the MacDonald's game
He is likely their 3 with the 2 returning guards. They also have 6-9 Withers who may thrive with more minutes. He averaged 10 and 7 for Louisville 2 years ago.