Path to 1 Seed ...?

[youngman42]

We can win it all being a 2 seed but I think we have a better shot as a 1 seed.

First and foremost, of course, winning the ACC title. If we keep winning and make it to the semis of the ACC we should be set with a #2.

Second, it will help if Baylor keeps winning, imo. That would mean KU would have another loss and likely two. If KU beats Baylor and they meet in the finals of the Big 12 and Baylor wins a close one, it could result in both getting a 1 seed.

Of course if SDSU loses or the Zags lose - that could hurt their chances at a 1 seed also. If both those teams win out, the committee may be hard pressed to not give both a 1 seed. Though they could both be 1 and 2 in the west.

Thoughts?

 

[bullcity gamer]

You are pretty spot on youngman42. Baylor is the only lock as a #1 seed at the moment. If Gonzaga or San Diego State lose, then they will lose a #1 seed. I do not believe either of those teams resumes are very strong. If Kansas loses another game and Duke wins the remaining of their regular season schedule and wins the ACC Tournament, then Duke will get a #1 seed.

 

[QC Dukie]

You are pretty spot on youngman42. Baylor is the only lock as a #1 seed at the moment. If Gonzaga or San Diego State lose, then they will lose a #1 seed. I do not believe either of those teams resumes are very strong. If Kansas loses another game and Duke wins the remaining of their regular season schedule and wins the ACC Tournament, then Duke will get a #1 seed.

Doesn’t kansas have the same amount of losses as we do? And we beat them head to head. How are they currently a one seed and not us? Is their strength of schedule stronger?

 

[FearTheBeard]

The crazy thing is we could see a scenario where the #1 seeds are SDSU, Gonzaga, Dayton, and one of Baylor/Duke/KU. If that were to happen I’d almost rather be a 2 seed if it’s with one of the first three schools.

I could also see a scenario where Duke and KU are the 1 & 2 seeds in the east and the committee throws KY and Mich St in there as well.

 

[QC Dukie]

The crazy thing is we could see a scenario where the #1 seeds are SDSU, Gonzaga, Dayton, and one of Baylor/Duke/KU. If that were to happen I’d almost rather be a 2
I could also see a scenario where Duke and KU are the 1 & 2 seeds in the east and the committee throws KY and Mich St in there as well.

I’ll gladly take a two seed if it’s in with zags or sdsu.

 

[bullcity gamer]

Doesn’t kansas have the same amount of losses as we do? And we beat them head to head. How are they currently a one seed and not us? Is their strength of schedule stronger?

QC, you are correct in that both Kansas and Duke have the same amount of losses. I give Kansas the edge at the moment, because they do not have any bad losses. They lost to Duke by 2, @ Villanova by 1, and at home to Baylor by 12. What is hurting Duke right now is the loss at home to Stephen F Austin and @ Clemson, even though I expect both of those teams to be NCAA Tournament Teams when the field is announced in a month.

 

[FearTheBeard]

QC, you are correct in that both Kansas and Duke have the same amount of losses. I give Kansas the edge at the moment, because they do not have any bad losses. They lost to Duke by 2, @ Villanova by 1, and at home to Baylor by 12. What is hurting Duke right now is the loss at home to Stephen F Austin and @ Clemson, even though I expect both of those teams to be NCAA Tournament Teams when the field is announced in a month.

I don’t think Clemson is making the tournament unless they win the ACCT.

 

[dachampishere2]

We win out and we get the 1 seed. Baylor or Kansas will lose. If we go on a 14 game win streak we are going to be given that 1 seed. Do we need it? No. I actually like the bracket that the committee put out first

 

[Neners]

I feel like we should just win everything for the rest of the year just to be safe.

 

[FearTheBeard]

I feel like we should just win everything for the rest of the year just to be safe.

I like this plan.

 

[timo0402]

As long as we are in the East I’m happy.

 

[chov1125]

Win. That’s it. Winning is going to give us the best chance at success in the tournament. And that isnt meant to be a “duh” statement. What I mean is that I would rather win out and land a #2 seed than stumble and somehow land a #1 seed based on the losses of others. The next month will tell us everything we need to know about this team. If we win, I don’t care who we see in the tournament. If we struggle and play like we did against Clemson and Louisville and even SFA we’ll get picked off no matter who we face.

I know that wasn’t the response you were looking for when starting this thread. All I mean is we have a chance to grow into the best team in the country. If we are hoping for anything to happen between now and the tournament, I believe we should be hoping for continuing growth and development. Then it won’t matter who we see or what seed we land.

 

[Neners]

I like this plan.

It usually works!

 

[FearTheBeard]

If UNC wins out in the regular season do you think they can wrap up a #1 seed*


*In the CBI tournament.

 

[gottagonow]

If Duke could play like we did yesterday it would be fine with me if we a 10 seed because i dont think anyone can beat us if we play like yesterday, But like neners said why not just win out to be sure.

 

[DiehardDukeFan4Life]

I feel like we should just win everything for the rest of the year just to be safe.

That’s what I think as well. If we win the rest of our regular season games and go on to win the ACC Tournament then I think we’ll get a 1 seed. I think we might could even lose 1 more regular season game if we still win the ACC regular season title and the ACC Tournament and still get a 1 seed depending on who that 1 loss is to and if 1 of the teams ranked above us loses at least once in the regular season or their conference tournament.

 

[Dukeblue4ever]

Stephen f austin is 22-3. That loss isnt as bad as once thought. Kenpom has them around the same ranking as miami, wake forest, VT, unc and alot better than boston college

 

[duke198025]

I didn't think the SFA loss was going to be bad even at the time. That's a pretty good mid major program.

 

[ioliva]

The problem is our awful resume. First year where we haven’t beaten much highly ranked teams, especially since the acc is down . I think we’re barely 4-1 in q1 rankings

 

[jwill133]

Just keep winning and it will all work itself out. We need SDSU, Gonzaga, or Kansas to lose for us to jump to the 1 line (Baylor probably 2 losses because they have separated from the pack).

Regardless, if we take care of our business and those teams keep winning: worse case scenario we are #5 which equates to the 2 seed in the East with most likely SDSU or Gonzaga, and I think that is perfect for us.

 

[bullettoothtony]

Baylor and Kansas are pretty much locks. Yes we beat Kansas head-to-head but they've got 10 or 11 Quad-1 wins I think.

Gonzaga and SDSU could lose 1 seeds but I'm guessing at least one of them will get one

If we win out, including the ACC Tournament, we'll probably end up on the 1 line. One more loss and we'll need help.

 

[Quavarius]

As long as we are in the East I’m happy.

This! Going from Greensboro, to NYC to ATL would be great for travel!

 

[JohnstonCDevil]

Our path to a one seed is crystal clear. When we play, we win!!! That's all we need to do!!!
OFC

 

[tripleb71]

I love where we are in the current projections. Being a 1 makes us historically better odds, but I would hate to see the committee punish us getting the last 1 seed with a 2 seed Kansas or Baylor

 

[duke198025]

The problem is our awful resume. First year where we haven’t beaten much highly ranked teams, especially since the acc is down . I think we’re barely 4-1 in q1 rankings

They don't have a lot of big wins, but Kansas and FSU stack up better than almost everyone other than Baylor. Would have helped if MSU didn't fall apart.

 

[bullcity gamer]

Our Blue Devils control their own destiny on a path to a #1 seed, if they win out and win the ACC Tournament, they will be a #1 seed with both San Diego State and Gonzaga losing tonight. I feel Kansas and Baylor are locks as #1 seeds.

 

[DiehardDukeFan4Life]

Our Blue Devils control their own destiny on a path to a #1 seed, if they win out and win the ACC Tournament, they will be a #1 seed with both San Diego State and Gonzaga losing tonight. I feel Kansas and Baylor are locks as #1 seeds.

As far as Kansas and Baylor I think it could depend on how far they go in the Big XII Tournament. If one of them were to get knocked out of the Big XII Tournament really early then it could possibly cost them a 1 seed but it also might not.

 

[tripleb71]

As far as Kansas and Baylor I think it could depend on how far they go in the Big XII Tournament. If one of them were to get knocked out of the Big XII Tournament really early then it could possibly cost them a 1 seed but it also might not.

Kansas has a gazillion quad 1 wins...no way they are coming off the 1 line at this point even getting bounced from thier tourney early.

 

[pisgah101]

Kansas Baylor deff ones... the other two are interesting now. My guess is Dayton is projected and whoever wins out in the ACC between us and Lville

 

[kwyjibos13]

I think zags, baylor, and ku are locks. Sdsu cannot afford to lose another game because the mountain west is awful. I think at this point, duke or md win out, they will get the east. This loss, at home to a .500 ball club, hurts sdsu mightily.

 

[CRAZIE4LIFE]

That ncsu loss sucks more now that #1, 2, and 4 have lost this weekend.

 

[chov1125]

I don’t think any team is a lock right now, none. Still too much time left. A team like Louisville was being talked about heavily for a 1 seed and lost twice in the same week. Still a lot to be played out.

 

[Quavarius]

As long as Duke is in the East, I don’t care if we’re the 1 or 2. I’d rather get to the FF going through the East.

 

[HeLooks2MuchLikeDave]

I don’t think any team is a lock right now, none. Still too much time left. A team like Louisville was being talked about heavily for a 1 seed and lost twice in the same week. Still a lot to be played out.

Yeah no one is a lock. Too much basketball left to be played.

I’m curious to what the rankings do Monday
1. KU
2. Baylor
3. Dayton
4. Maryland
5. Gonzaga
6. SDSU
7. FSU
8. Duke
9. Louisville
10. Kentucky

 

[pisgah101]

Yeah no one is a lock. Too much basketball left to be played.

I’m curious to what the rankings do Monday
1. KU
2. Baylor
3. Dayton
4. Maryland
5. Gonzaga
6. SDSU
7. FSU
8. Duke
9. Louisville
10. Kentucky

Kansas and Baylor are most certainly locks without an epic collapse

 

[Fourteen44]

UK will play themselves into a 2 seed, and IMO are a final four team with essentially 3 point guards, strong FT shooting, and a center in Richards who is really coming on strong.

After typing that I think I’ll go throw up.

 

[chov1125]

Kansas and Baylor are most certainly locks without an epic collapse

I believe it would take an epic collapse for both to fall off the 1 line, that I agree with. I fully expect at least 1 big 12 team to be a 1. And there’s a good chance that both could be 1’s if they finish strong. But there’s an ACC champion that must be crowned as well as a Big 10 champ. Dayton, Sd St and Gonzaga may all run the table from here. Baylor and Kansas both have to play Texas Tech and Baylor still has to go @ WVU.

My point being there’s still too much left to be decided to call multiple teams from the same conference locks.

ACC got 3 teams last year to the top line, so there’s precedent for multiple teams. But there’s also a month of hoops to be played.

 

[HuffyJB]

As long as Duke is in the East, I don’t care if we’re the 1 or 2. I’d rather get to the FF going through the East.

After the NCSU loss Lunardi moved Duke out of the East and put Maryland in. It is seemingly a battle between those two for that spot. UM's remaining schedule is exclusively Quad 1 games, so while that presents obvious obstacles, it also presents a great chance for them to bolster their resume. The 2 in the east is big because of the favorable geography for Duke, but also to avoid Kansas. They, to me, are unquestionably the best team in the country.

There was a great article on DBR earlier this week (I think) about ways Duke's resume can improve. I think that Georgetown win is right on the cusp of being a Q1 win, so we need GU to win some games down the stretch.

 

[tripleb71]

Maryland definitely presents some challenges to our hopes to be in the East. They have a tough remaining schedule, but that could work in thier favor.

 

[tripleb71]

I'd hate to end up in the same bracket as Kansas, but I have to imagine they would feel the same way about us. Kind of weird to see them as the overall 1 seed atm and drawing us as a 2. Lol