Dereck Lively II: No Excuses….I didn’t know this kids story
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Never know what a player or their family are going through. I know many are opponents of NIL but in cases like these it’s hard to argue the importance of it to players and families in similar situations.
Nice piece, thanks for sharing this! Mad respect for this young man and his mom.
F cancer!
F cancer!
Awesome video and human! Go Derek!!
What an incredible young man . I’m glad he chose Duke .
Great story. Happy that he is able to help his mom. Everyone has a story and appreciate to hear his. OFC
Very cool! Glad she’s in remission!
Dude better go pro this year and get paid so he can better support her financially…..wishing them the best!
Dude better go pro this year and get paid so he can better support her financially…..wishing them the best!
I watched that as well. Didn't realize what a great kid Lively is. So nice to see him having success after a rocky start. His mom seems like a great lady.
Wouldn't it be nice if he could get a legit NIL deal like Pack from Miami got? Anything to help sway him to stay! Know it won't happen but would be awesome if NIL could come through!
I'd love to see that, but he will make a bank in the NBA next year. I wonder how much of an impact it will have on bringing back a few other guys, though.
Sounds like he got decent NIL money. Says he bought his mom a house. That could just be the down payment until he gets NBA money. A very unselfish thing to do.
Yup! He no doubt would make more in the NBA, but I do hope/wonder if it helps for guys like Proctor and Mark. Getting a $200-$300k deal to stay and be the man at Duke while getting a free education? Yes please!
Steward leaving like a month before NIL was announced must really have him regretting his decision.
DJ is still in the G-league, and I wonder if he will ever jump to the NBA. He's one of the few freshmen who left early that I thought wasn't ready.
Has Cassius Stanley done anything? I actually had to google his name a while back because I forgot it. What are Hurt and Duval doing? I haven't heard a thing, but i don't watch the NBA.
Vernon Carey isn't playing at all now. Tre Jones has started most of the year for my Spurs. He has been injured some, but he's played well and has improved each year he's been in the league.
See that annoys me about Stanley. All those "he has to go" posts. Why? To play in the G League?
I think Stanley would've benefited from two more years in college. I know he was older but hasn't found it in the G-League. I do think if the NIL had existed, then he would've possibly stayed another year. Carey is the one that I get why he left, but his game isn't made for today's NBA.
But again, if his game isn't made the the NBA, why leave? Why do our guys not understand this while everyone else gets their big men back? Lively and Flip are different, they are ready. Mark Williams played it perfectly.
We've had 27 freshmen leave early. I won't count Rodney Hood; he was a redshirt sophomore or guys like Tre, Wendell, Mark, or even Hurt, who stayed multiple years. Of that 27 freshmen, 10 either didn't make it in the NBA, played sparingly, or are still playing in the G-League or overseas. Cassius Stanley, Jalen Johnson, DJ Steward, Vernon Carey, Trevor Keels, Trevon Duvall, Frank Jackson, Harry Giles, Jabari Parker, and Okafor. Now, you could exclude Parker and Giles for all the injuries they've dealt with, and I understand why they both left.
Okafor and Carey are old-school, big guys; though Carey can hit the 3, they both have games not built for the NBA; their draft stocks would've never been higher than they were, though. That leaves Stanley, Steward, Johnson, Keels, Duvall, and Jackson. None of these guys were NBA-ready, hell, Jalen Johnson wasn't even college ready. However, covid did present issues for him and Steward. Steward, who was not pushed out, needed another year or two, but he and his camp felt he was ready to make the jump. Keels, Jackson, and especially Duvall all needed another year in college. I'd rather have had a sophomore Frank Jackson over a freshman Trevon Duvall. I don't know what the right answer is, Chris. I do like that Jon wants more continuity in his program. And I feel like we will see more than a few of our guys return, especially if we get bounced early.
Okafor and Carey are old-school, big guys; though Carey can hit the 3, they both have games not built for the NBA; their draft stocks would've never been higher than they were, though. That leaves Stanley, Steward, Johnson, Keels, Duvall, and Jackson. None of these guys were NBA-ready, hell, Jalen Johnson wasn't even college ready. However, covid did present issues for him and Steward. Steward, who was not pushed out, needed another year or two, but he and his camp felt he was ready to make the jump. Keels, Jackson, and especially Duvall all needed another year in college. I'd rather have had a sophomore Frank Jackson over a freshman Trevon Duvall. I don't know what the right answer is, Chris. I do like that Jon wants more continuity in his program. And I feel like we will see more than a few of our guys return, especially if we get bounced early.
Leaving early is now what duke is while unc gets guys 3-5 years. It’s programmed into these kids heads by themselves , parents , or agents.As soon as Jon can change the culture/types of recruits we’ll deal with this every season. And I know people point to 2015 but that’s almost 10 years ago. They aren’t winning titles, look at the sc and Tennessee losses in the tournament. Eventually you’ll run into grown men especially with this Covid year bs, I absolutely can’t wait till that’s gone. We have 25-26 year olds in college now
This is a rare case I get a kid leaving - his mom is battling cancer and he wants to provide for her. He absolutely should go.
I have absolutely no problem with it
Of all our kids, I want Lively to go the most. I love this kid and would cherish another year with him on the team, but he needs to get that money for his mom.
Wish him the best. A good kid and an elite rim protector.
Surprised at his lack of offensive skills for a #1 prospect. His mobility, length, and motor will hopefully lead him to success in the league, though.
Surprised at his lack of offensive skills for a #1 prospect. His mobility, length, and motor will hopefully lead him to success in the league, though.
I watched that video the other day. I feel like I finally got to know him. Was nice to see him grow this year. Our interior game might be lacking next year if Flip leaves too. Good luck young man and good luck to your mom!
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