Jay had nothing to do with this. I heard he was in Florida at someone's beach condo. Some guy from Minnesota.This could all be Jay Bilas’ fault, too.
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Jay had nothing to do with this. I heard he was in Florida at someone's beach condo. Some guy from Minnesota.This could all be Jay Bilas’ fault, too.
Grayson always looks slow on d. He made some great plays today though. Our defense is trash. We need someone to step up and be our leader on defense. The guy is Javin, the problem is he can’t dribble or shoot, that’s a big problem.
Jay had nothing to do with this. I heard he was in Florida at someone's beach condo. Some guy from Minnesota.
He wanted to step it up, and tried, but seemed to lack the energy or physical commitment in the 2nd half. He didn’t seem his normal beast mode. Sometimes we get ourselves in a fog. It happens. The best players find ways to drag themselves out. He’ll be able to most days.
Just be a good host. Maybe then he will give Duke more credit than they deserve. We're all counting on you. I'm sure your hospitality will win him over.Well, he does work for John Skipper....so we can’t be sure. I also heard him say something not very flattering about Duke once. Pretty sure he did that on-purpose. Can’t comment, though, on the condo.
Silly Datt, it's not my formula. What did I say that wasn't true. He doesn't go deep into bench, we do have 4 and 5 stars over there. Most teams would love to have the guys we have siting. As the season goes, now here's the tricky part, so pay attention you silly silly boy, K trims it down, again not a lie.
Then in his presser, he says we're not deep. Big but not deep. I don't care if he's won 10 games or 10,000, that's a stupid comment. And if you defend that dumb comment, well Datt, I'd suggest you put the kool-aid down.
Oh, no! Here comes the calvary, rallying to defend each other against wittle ol' me!Brother, piece of advice, put Dattier on ignore. It's much, much better when you do.
I will try to do better and live up to your standards Dukejay, my mistake.
One correction: We're all really fortunate to have witnessed such success. It's only those among us who flip out over each and every loss and assign blame left and right who are spoiled -- as in "spoiled, immature brats."We are just a spoiled fan base. We (I'm including myself) want to win every game and then when we lose a game we get frustrated and want to point fingers and give reasons why we lost. You just stated that K has played 6 guys for most of his career in the 2nd half and I agree. This strategy has also made him the winningest coach in basketball and given our fans 5 championships. I'll continue to sometimes scratch my head, but I'll always know that we have the G.O.A.T. and that he has a plan for these players. It's just one game, this team will get much, much better as the season progresses. In the past when we had a veteran squad, it seemed like we peaked early. This team has a lot of room for improvement which is awesome. Let's just let the season play out like 2015.
Don't worry duhon. Many have tried....Few have succeeded. He is the unquestioned LOM. (Leader Of Mods).
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I don't see how the most obvious interpretation of what he said is anything other than a comment on the quality of our depth. Are any of us citing Mike Buckmire as "depth," for example, b/c he played vs St Francis? Why is it so difficult to understand that "depth" in an ACC road game is going to be different from "depth" in a blow-out?We definitely have depth. We all know that we do because K has played more guys in several games now. Even with some of the explanations offered here, I can't really wrap my head around K's statement. Maybe we didn't have depth yesterday because, well, K didn't want to play more guys or felt that they couldn't contribute in that particular game; so in that particular situation K is saying we didn't have depth? I dunno. I definitely think Alex could have had more burn. Bolden, too, if even just to provide some rest for Bagley or let him sit for a couple minutes until he realizes defense is a thing.
Thank you! The first step, for someone like you, is coming to that realization.
Nice return of my own sarcasm... Certainly there are those that think so though, but it does my heart good to see your gospel questioned. Duhon played it perfectly, and more folks are beginning to challenge your views. Thats a healthy thing, a fertile mind like yours needs to be challenged....Sometimes you are wrong...OFC
But ever so rarely, my friend....
Modesty is such a virtue "my friend." No wonder you like Bilas so much.... OFC
Coach K definitely should get the blame on our side. BC players get the rest of the blame. They are a 30% 3pt shooting team. The shot 58% today. That was just one of those days. Not much we can do about that. They looked like the Warriors out there. But I blame Coach K for not calling the big guys number on offense. He should know to feed the post. I can see if we shot 30 threes because they were kick-outs from the post but all of Grayson's threes were bad shots that I can recall. He shot us out the game if you want to be real.
Humbleness and humility, as well. I possess them all.
All I want is for Duke to learn from yesterday. I'm concerned for our defense. Duke's d hasn't been that good all season, or for that matter, the last few seasons.
Guys will have off shooting days, but when your d is off, it magnifies the shooting.
It's an accurate, rational explanation, not a "luxury."Well after the break K wont have the luxury of falling back on "We haven't had enough time to practice." He's got plenty of time to develop the D, and further develop what he views as a lack of depth...Yesterday was really the first time he failed to adjust this year as a bench coach IMO, by not exploiting BC more down low in 2nd half.
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I'm more concerned about who's taking the most shots. Our bigs were 16-24 field goals vs 16-45 from our guards. If we reverse that, I like our chances much more. Still, you feed the hot hand. Grayson wasn't hot, he needed to defer.All I want is for Duke to learn from yesterday. I'm concerned for our defense. Duke's d hasn't been that good all season, or for that matter, the last few seasons.
Guys will have off shooting days, but when your d is off, it magnifies the shooting.
You're not the scrappy, noble band of upstarts rising up against some so-called oppressive Clintonian overlord.Nice return of my own sarcasm... Certainly there are those that think so though, but it does my heart good to see your gospel questioned. Duhon played it perfectly, and more folks are beginning to challenge your views. Thats a healthy thing, a fertile mind like yours needs to be challenged....Sometimes you are wrong...OFC
You're not the scrappy, noble band of upstarts rising up against some so-called oppressive Clintonian overlord.
i see it more as an excuse, especially when you're a 15 pt favorite and the other team lacks their best big. Why not "I just didnt do a very good job of having my team ready to play today."It's an accurate, rational explanation, not a "luxury."
I don't see how the most obvious interpretation of what he said is anything other than a comment on the quality of our depth. Are any of us citing Mike Buckmire as "depth," for example, b/c he played vs St Francis? Why is it so difficult to understand that "depth" in an ACC road game is going to be different from "depth" in a blow-out?
Me, too. Some people here tend to throw point blame at K for that, while I'm more inclined to be disappointed for Alex and Quis....I would've have liked to have seen more Bolden as well as Alex get some minutes as I think both provide quality depth to our roster...
Grayson was told by K to be more aggressive. It's not like him to miss 15 out of 20 shots and to miss 8 3 point shots. We would have won had he been 8 for 20 probably, so to me it's not on Allen at all. A disturbing stat was Bagley, after dominating early, only took 4 shots in the 2nd half. That falls on Everyone, from K to the players. We also got out rebounded, which is something I thought wouldn't happen this season.I'm more concerned about who's taking the most shots. Our bigs were 16-24 field goals vs 16-45 from our guards. If we reverse that, I like our chances much more. Still, you feed the hot hand. Grayson wasn't hot, he needed to defer.
In these types of threads I like to fall back on, “Let’s go Duke!”
I think it’s ok to talk about why we lost and point out things we might do differently, as long as you’re ok with others being sarcastic about your stance.The conversations change a lot when a team loses. That’s when the real experts come out.
I think it’s ok to talk about why we lost and point out things we might do differently, as long as you’re ok with others being sarcastic about your stance.
Yes it's ok to go back and forth after a loss, as long as it stays on the issue.I think it’s ok to talk about why we lost and point out things we might do differently, as long as you’re ok with others being sarcastic about your stance.
Yes it's ok to go back and forth after a loss, as long as it stays on the issue.
That little phrase "stay on issue" is what gets some folks. Either someone's kid hijacked their computer or maybe someone forgot to take their meds, I don't know.
Most that post here know a lot about Duke, and if you're really honest, you know who the ones are that poke, or post those lovely condescending remarks, the ones that cause the back and forths away from the topic.
If there was no difference in opinion, there wouldn't be a message board.